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That presumably wouldve had to be some kind of paper trail showing that he is on this. what would happen to those the classified documents whimsy took them back from his residence into the white house while he was in office. when they suddenly get reclassified again? not to mention the fact that you have allies in a total uproar if its possible to just the classified documents in this casual way. his arguments never really held water. its interesting, he is reporting, thats now its looking like ...

The nexus to prove trumps intent, how do you see the situation, right now? >> i see the situation as trump would want to work something out. i dont think thats going to be an option for him. even before this latest evidence of this tape came out, this latest reporting about this tape, theyre gonna be charges that could be brought against trump. a way to look at this latest reporting, no potential evidence, is really icing on the cake on top of that. so, i think that this could certainly make thi...

Prosecutors? >> well, theres a lot to be drawn from this great reporting, paula. and the first thing is, of course, it relates to obstruction. did he retain a document that was asked for specifically and not turn it over? if he had that document, if it was requested of him and he didnt turn it over, i think thats compelling evidence of obstruction. similarly, he seems to acknowledge in the audio tape, and we have to listen to the audio tape, of course, but he seems to acknowledge in the audio ta...

And what is going on the other side we know from yesterday, theres audio president trump am talking about harry had a classified document about a potential attack on iran and in his possession and where i dont think you do your presidential work there necessarily come of this work jack smith now people are saying is going to be obstruction now and espionage if he. greg: [laughter] espionage. jesse: is not a joke, the national office reach out to trumps lawyers may 6 and 2021 and said to me of do...

93, chris, i know it sort of inside baseball, with that last phrase in 70 93, it does fit here normally however seven and three is used for people who pass along information like edward snowden. the question, i think, that general -- the question is how youre going to simplify this now. so many prosecutors fail, overcharge and failed to keep it simple. i dont think smith will be one of those. the very same conduct also is a clear violation of obstruction. the question is whether he will stick to...

>> does that make sense, it does the former president, did he use documents like this? >> it makes sense in the world of donald trump, that was something as serious as national security secrets about war plans with one of americas adversaries, it would actually be held on to for no reason other than to settle a score. that is classic donald trump, but i think you cannot lose sight of how serious this is. -- mike pompeo, obrien, ill still travel with full time security details after the -- affili...

That he had possession of these documents when he was no longer entitled to have them. and that will be the -- theres the espionage act, other statutes that come into play involving retention of documents and even obstruction of an investigation, but at heart this case is about a former president who took the nations most important secrets with him when he left office and refused to turn them over, and here the government has it on an audio recording in his own words. >> and dave, you mentioned ...

The difference of volume in materials recovered, and also because trumps conduct raised questions about obstruction. and in cnns new reporting, its revealed how much evidence prosecutors have and how significant the legal threat is. >> terrific reporting, paula. thank you very much. stay with us, as we bring in our guests. the trump team cant find this document, but prosecutors do have this recording. how much does that matter in terms of the special counsels investigation? >> what the special...

To hide the document. he moved them around according to reports to keep them out of the eyes of the fed. so thats the difference here. and when you say that, yeah, it means perhaps donald trumps going to be charged, ill go one step further. i think donald trump will be charged for his possession and refusal to return the documents for his obstruction, and i think thats going to come this month. >> so congressman jolly, pence, hes expected to announce his campaign for 2024 next week. i imagine he...

Economy, luckily, as you pointed out, that is not something that democrats are going to let happen. that is why we are supporting this, but the fact that this is what mccarthy negotiated while holding our economy hostage and is having trouble passing, i think it shows you some of the dysfunction on the other side of the aisle. >> final question for you. you represent a swing district in new jersey. its a competitive seat, you will probably face a competitive race in 2024. your district, district...