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Actually had direct evidence of anything approaching stunning let alone an abuse of power. >> president trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the meetings. >> the president didnt come after the bidens or any investigations? >> no. >> did you ever talk to president trump in 2019?ig >> no, i have not. >> you were not on the call? >> i was not on the call. >> laura: second, democrats could charge bribery. >> my colleagues seem to think unless the president says the magic word...