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>> absolutely. >> now theyre going to pay a big price. i knew ruby giuliani when he was a powerful effective mayor, and to see where this man is now, it is heart-breaking to see this. >> all for one person. >> yeah. >> well, you know, i -- the way in which some of these folks like ruby and shea were picked out of obscurity, just people posting videos online and then maligned like this, i mean, you dont have to have a file and information to know that -- >> their lives were destroyed. >> -- that ...

What youre seeing in north carolina is what folks here in louisiana went through last month. and this is good news at this point. compared to a month ago, cases are down dramatically. hospitalizations are down significantly including this hospital system running the vaccination clinic behind me down 60% from just a month ago, and then those vaccinations are up. so theyre still pushing the vaccinations saying theyre still not out of the woods yet but theyre liking the trends theyre in right now a...

Recommendations from the fda or cdc. >> and learning to live with covid, and one of the questions a lot of the people have, and "the new york times" in fact reports this, so let me read from that. it says americans entered a new disheartening phase from the pandemic, and they realize covid is not disappearing anytime soon, and it has been forced to recalibrate. is that where we are and is that where we are going to be not just for the coming months but for the coming years? >> well, chris, based...

Still immuno compromised am. >> it depends. you can measure that. you can see how many of these types of immune cells they actually have in their system. theyre often sort of followed along for that specifically whereas people who may take immuno suppressant drugs for transplant, for example, some people may take these type of drugs because they have auto immune d immune diseases. 10 million people is a big group of people but who specifically is that going to be? i think thats what part of the ...