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The state didnt prove its case. theres not enough evidence to take this to the jury. these motions are always made. they are rarely, rarely granted. because the evidence is looked at in the light most favorable to the government. so i suspect that thats something that may happen as well. and after that -- and those motions sometimes are very quick. and sometimes they take a long time. so depending on how long that takes, then we may see the beginning of the defense case. >> martin, what do you t...

Intermediate range pattern, correct? >> yes. >> and you put in terms of 0.4 inches to four feet. >> yes, based on the literature i used. >> yes, sir. and you also provided to both counsel the -- and im going to mispronounce it. the inter -- >> intermediate. >> tell me again. thats where you have clothing, right? >> oh, yeah, the intermediary. intermediary means you have something between the muzzle of the gun and the target, or skin of trayvon martin. >> as you stated in the notes you provided c...

>> so thats really ten times, isnt it? >> yes. >> ten times, one to ten minutes is a huge -- >> yes. let me tell you -- >> is that as accurate as you can be? >> yes. >> okay. lets then talk about something else you said in connection with that. if i heard what you said earlier in direct, that you said that immediately following the shot, trayvon martin would not be able to move. did you say that? >> yes, i did. >> is that your opinion, that based upon the shot to mr. martins heart that immediate...

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Continue to question him. she called it a rookie mistake. do you agree? >> i agree. i think that he really didnt make any point with his cross-examination. everything that he has to argue this is already in evidence. youre never going to get the victims mother to really give you anything more. she was solid. she was convinced that that was her sons voice on that tape. nothing he asked her was going to change that. it was really kind of a pointless cross. >> ill throw a question to you. this is s...

There could be some transfer of those bodily fluids? if not actually blood? >> so there is no hemorrhage. so there is no clot. just superficial. >> your opinion is there wouldnt -- if that abrasion were to come in contact with someones clothing, there would be no transfer of biological matter? >> it could be. because the superficial skin was off. so -- so i believe there a possibility after this injury, the superficial skin could transfer from one person to anoth another. any time you have conta...

Is the evidence -- hypothetically if the evidence showed photographs there at the scene by the police department that the body was covered in a tarp, or a tarp was covered over the body, would that in some way protect the body? >> yeah. before i came here i did review the scene photos. not because i went to scene but because i reviewed the photos. >> you reviewed photos that were taken by the investigator? >> yeah. i reviewed a few days ago, even yesterday. >> right. was there indication the bod...

Bao. he was just excused. he was on the stand for quite a chunk of the day. he was the person who conducted that final autopsy on the body of 17-year-old trayvon martin. and earlier today, this was prerecess, something happened that you actually rarely see in a court of law. >> are you reading from something now. >> yeah, yeah. i typed down my stuff. >> may i see what youre referring to, please? may i approach the witness? >> because i puzzled by that. i could not remember the thing. >> your hon...

>> i dont think so. >> you couldnt have been? >> its so superficial. the blood vessel did not have injury. >> all right. so if there had been some blood that you didnt see, it could have been wiped off? >> objection. speculation. >> sustained. >> the body reacts to being injured by putting some fluids, too, correct? >> yeah. >> even if its not blood, there could be some other bodily fluids that would kind of come to help start the healing? >> right. an injury for any place in the body, the body ...

Place, this side bar hear ing. the jury is still out of the room. lets just try to understand maybe not necessarily whats happening because were not in there and youre not the attorneys there. i dont want to put you in an awkward position, eleanor and tonya. lets talk about the process of resting a case. the state officially rested. im getting in my ear from the control room. so jury is still not in the room. to rest without the jury? is that typical? >> well, not necessarily. but then they coul...