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Jared was a leader on in 2009. its a point i think theyre still relevant on. >> let me just amplify those excellent points. one thing i have heard and im very happy about this is that the white house and these negotiations has been holding firm on the stimulus piece of this package. >> the 50 billion additional. >> theres 50 billion on infrastructure, an extension of unemployment. something like a payroll tax check boost there. i dont know if all those pieces stay in place. at least what ive hea...

Fact that theres going to have to be transfers here, right? >> yes. >> there are losses on the table. this is the problem. theres losses on the table and a game of musical chairs. >> unnecessary losses on the table. they do the bernanke, the bailout, then the common fiscal policy going forward so people feel reassured no country is out of control and put the burden on everyone else. its to reassure people. right now, the other thing you need is to recognize one of the biggest causes of deficits ...