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Courageous. something no president could do and something he stuck to through thick and thing and a lot of people trying to bring him down and his aend gentleman? is it possible it could really turn? >> politically, absolutely. no question about it. in terms of where we need to be as a country right now, whether we can too before or after health care, we need to be making the pan bigger. >> i dont disagree with that. david gregory. >> george bush was courageous on iraq and that didnt work out so...