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have anywhere is when people think their lives or the lives of their children don't matter, that they're somehow disposable like a paper napkin after lunch or restroom or something. doesn't matter. and we have to, if we want our freedom to be indeed as well as word in america, we have to make people feel that everybody matters again. >> president clinton said, more now on my conversation with sybrina fulton. i asked whether it would lead to charges against the officer involved in her opinion. did -- when you saw that videotape, did you think, well, this time the grand jury is going to indict? leslie? >> i really didn't know, to be
killed in a so-called thrill kill. >> if it was a takedown. why did he continue choking him, mashing his head against the ground. the rest of the police officers on him. the video plainly shows how long he had his hand around my son's neck. he had no regards for his life. it was like it was a thrill kill for him. >> we're also hearing from former president bill clinton about the weeks of unrest. he says police departments need to work to improve their relationships with their communities. >> the fundamental problem you have anywhere is when people think their lives or lives of their children don't matter like they're disposable like a paper napkin after a lunch or restaurant or something, just doesn't matter. we have to -- if we want our freedom to be indeed as well as word in america we have to make
i'm going to represent it and so, i can't breathe. >> so today president bill clinton talked about the protests and he said something that touches on what you said about how you feel about all of this gabriel. let me play what the president said. >> the fundamental problem you have anywhere is when people think their lives or the lives of their children don't matter, that they are somehow disposable like a paper napkin after a lunch, it just doesn't matter. and we have to -- if we want our freedom to be in deed and in word in our country, we have to make everybody feel that everybody matters again. >> and i know you talk about how you feel the power of the three words, i can't breathe and wearing the shirt for your uncle but do you understand what the president said? do you have that feeling, that there are people out there who would just look at you if you were walking down the street and not think that your life mattered? >> yeah, definitely. you have situations where you
they're somehow disposable, just like a paper napkin after a lunch at a restaurant or something, it just doesn't matter. we have to -- if we want our freedom to be indeed as well as word in america, we have to make people feel that everybody matters again. >> clinton went on to say there's a lot of work that needs to be done to rebuild trust with communities. in a few minutes, martin luther king the iii will join us to talk about the recent police killings and nationwide protests. a unique perspective from him. family and friends will remember the mississippi teenager burned alive, the latest as her family prepares for her funeral. the worst thing about the senate's torture report isn't the methods used but the damage it will do to our communities. he's joining us to talk about that. nore signs of damage in your home.
we're back with the naacp president and ceo cornell william brooks. also joining us, benjamin crump, the lawyers for the families of michael brown and trayvon martin. we're going to talk about what's expected here in washington, d.c. tomorrow. but i want both of you first to listen to the former president of the united states, bill clinton, speaking rather powerfully about what's going on today. listen to this. >> the fundamental problem you have anywhere is when people think their lives and the lives of their children don't matter. that they're somehow disposable, just like a paper napkin at a lunch at a restaurant or something. it just doesn't matter.
i do work in dc now. and get back home to maine as often as i can. >> steve: do you still have supper with just the paper napkin? >> oh, yes, of course. >> gretchen: fantastic idea and people should check out the book. great to meet the entire family. >> thank you. >> steve: straight ahead on this monday morning, brand-newut oba. did you know where you live will make a huge difference in what you're going to pay for drugs? the stunning numbers are coming up next. >> gretchen: and she's legally blind burks better than most athletes with 20/20 vision. this high school pole vaulter's story will make your day. right back [ male announcer ] house rule number 46.
flying. oh, my gosh we he is on "the view." that's horrible. sno no, it's not. we have been doing this for year. george bush was on the arsenio hall show. >> i don't want it leave it without fairness. only did whoopee get the president, the president got barbara walters. barbara walters admitted she took thing out of white house. >> look at this. >> you know that occasionally if i've been fortunate enough to go to the white house wsh, i take a paper napkin or two. >> you steal our stuff? >> she is a clepto. >> i saw it on national heritage. >> make sure you watch -- >> you know that you take stuff. >> you can see secret service are all like -- >> after the program -- >> watch that girl. >> waun't to cover our -- we want it recover our stolen items. >> that was funny.
i said, sure. why not? >> and we rode back into the white house. the president, i think, had been president for less than an hour. >> ford asked rumsfeld to run the transition and appointed him chief of staff. cheney was his deputy. one night in a washington restaurant, came his next big lesson in economics. that's when a former yale classmate, economist arthur laffer famously sketched what would be known as the laffer curve, on a dinner napkin. >> hidinner with don rumsfeld a once a week. a coil of times he invited guests and he invited my classmate, dick cheney. >> that i was trying to explain how to cut rates. laffer whipped out a white linen napkin, not an old paper napkin. laid it out on the table and drew out the laffer curve, in a black sharpie kind of pen that