counting the votes in the electoral college certification on january six. there are some experts who say no, one of those experts is judge michael luttig, a retired federal judge who was best known previous to this for advising plans on how he should conduct himself on january 6th. right? so i spoke with pence is a big deal. the second question is even if it does apply, folks like judge riddick or say it should fall away and be on a sliding scale because there is a demonstration of need. there were conversations between trump and pence that nobody else participated in, particularly on the pen side. they were not even overheard by aids. that s what chuck smith will say we really need those conversations, we need pants to testify because nobody else has that information. so then there is the ask of both jared kushner and ivanka trump. subpoenas put out there by the special counsel right? frank bowman, former federal prosecutor telling slate this, they will have a little bit of a proble
president trump might be frustrated with what foreign governments might know, durham and barr are talking to foreign governments about what they may have known or participated in, based on what the deep state which is not so deep, because it s actually quite at the top of that deep state, with rosenstein and comey and mueller, they were collaborated, and durham has a chance to getco to the bottom. you talk to average grassroots supporters of this president, they still demand accountability, and the president channels that. that s what he asked these questions, because it hasn t been delivered yet. sean: dan bongino, let s switch names, vice president trump. i m sure he would hate the demotion. instead of hunter, it s don jr. and vice president trump was doing the bragging about leveraging our tax money. yeah, this is kind of hysterical when you think about it. we don t have to bother switching the names, sean, it already happened. remember when they complained about the trump tow
democrats turned over too much in the past? no, no, no, no i went, remember the coverage that we all had and you all participated in, the republican house deciding how to respond to not getting answers to fought getting materials for long, long period of time. that was not that happened under the obama presidency. there was no real legal result. the house did certain things, held the attorney general in contempt, for instance. but they didn t have the ability beyond that it is the department of justice that goes and acts on those contempt findings when they occur. that s traditionally the way that happens. i think when you find it against
fix this by allowing these cases to stay within the chain of command. she said it was almost like being raped a second time. and the retaliation is so huge. 60% of those who report, also report that they were retaliated against. the system is full of cultural and we re seeing it in the military academies. we had a hearing on that issue a few weeks ago. there is a time for repetanntan and a time to act. the zero tolerance argument doesn t work. there was a big debate on the senate side in the series of hearings that gillibrand and claire mccaskill, then-senator, participated in, and they disagreed about whether it should be taken out of the chain of command. but you think that something now has to be done. there s no question that something has to be done. we always kind of bow to the military establishment and see
interrupt garrett. the only point i was going to make it gets to a pattern of lies here regarding russia contacts for knowledge of wikileaks releases, the trump tower meeting, the trump tower moscow project, and the hush money payments. it s a pattern of lying that the president participated in, right? he denied the hush money payments. they turned out to be true. he denied any interest in a trump tower project, when in fact we learn those conversations went much later. of course he denied any russia contacts. many of those contacts have now been corroborated and michael cohen taking those contacts a step further now saying that the president has for knowledge of both the wikileaks releases but also of that trump tower meeting in 2016. and you made a great point, alisyn, this gets to the critical thinking of the american public here. you re going to hear competing claims today about who s credible, who s believable, and it s up to folks at home to decide who they believe here. but in t