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are pro-palestinian in their own telling. the idea that this republican senator has such harsh ideas how to deal with people protesting things that he does not agree with feels like a hallmark of this republican party. >> reporter: well, listen, i have not spoken, i don't dough what is inside other people's minds. i try not to do that. this is what i do know, i do know is our country is in a spiral right now. it is in a spiral of partisanship and it is a spiral of extremism. what we really need is leaders that will stop the spiral, who will arrest it, stop it from happening and unite us again. we are at our best when we are united, we come together and that is the leadership we need now more than ever. when we come back the rise of right wing domestic violence extremism, happening right now in our country. but it also happened before in the years leading up to the

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from someone internally rising up. >> and mastering those passions and those passions about partisanship that's what's wrong. >> i don't disagree with anything he said. i just think there's not a big effort on the left to understand what they are talking about. because i don't think it's insincere in there, but i think they think we're going to hell in a handcart and one reason i think that is because the story that came out this week about npr npr is to them what this country would be if it was a permanent democratic governorship and if you miss the story on npr, it's, it's pretty interesting. a guy named array berliner came out. he wrote it. he'd been there for a longtime 25 years. this guy, by the way, went to sarah lawrence and was raised by a lesbian peace activist. so he's very, very sean hannity. >> yeah. well very sean he said, i've been at npr for 25

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were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas but this is what we have. >> and the intermediates and think about the republican party is, if you are in fact going to put partisanship as your central organizing principle. >> if reflexive partisanship is the most important thing i would argue that you need to go back and read george washington's farewell address. you need to read the founders that otherwise, they love, they love the founders when they can move it around to agree with them. it's very clear that if party spirit became the organizing principle that that was going to be fatal to the constitution. and it's very interesting when bar said, it's suicide. i mean, the idea that president biden's leading us to national suicide, haven't even sure what he's talking about? >> but lincoln use that image and his first major speech to the 18, he said, if we ever fall, it's not going to be from a foreign foe, is going to be

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washington's farewell address. you need to read the founders that otherwise, they love, they love the founders when they can move it around to agree with them. it's very clear that if party spirit became the organizing principle that that was going to be fatal to the constitution. and it's very interesting when bar said, it's suicide. i mean, the idea that president biden's leading us to national suicide. i don't even sure what he's talking about but lincoln use that image and his first major speech to the 1830s, he said, if we ever fall, it's not going to be from a foreign foe. it's going to be from someone internally rising up and mastering those passions and those passions about partisanship. >> that's what's wrong. >> i don't disagree with anything he said. i just think there's not a big effort on the left to understand what they are talking about. because i don't think it's insincere in there, but i think they think we're going to hell in a handcart and one reason i think that is because the story that came out this week about nber

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do wonder again, we're talking as though this was an inevitability that it would be these two i mean, more moderate conservatives who perhaps feel a little bit more homeless and the republican party might have been tempted to crossover is in the voter base. >> i mean, they have now hello, been presented with this choice where it was never an inevitability that it would be these two men mean what if there had been a different option within the democratic party? >> well, what if if if sands and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a very christmas as but this is what we have and the intermediates and think about the republican party is if you are in fact going to put partisanship as your central organizing principle. >> if reflexive partisanship is the most important thing i would argue that you need to go back and read george

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you or a loved one have mesothelial will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to one 4,000 by partisanship is a dirty word in some circles in washington just as speaker mike johnson. >> so i sat down with two longtime senate veterans to discuss how they view their parties and what they believe has gone wrong democratic west virginia senator joe manchin is not seeking reelection this year, and he just launched a new group with his daughter called americans together. former republican ohio senator rob portman is working on his portman center for policy solutions at the university of cincinnati. now, i spoke a boat lawmakers after moderating a panel with them at the university of chicago's institute of politics they had tough words for their parties and the top of their tickets. but we began by talking about the changing makeup in views of the senate gop, such as over ukraine, portman, a staunch advocate, was replaced by republican senator jd vance,

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is there a legit concern over foreign spending? >> ignorance certainly and ignoring the real threat of vladimir putin. and negative partisanship. if joe biden is asking for it, then republicans voted down. mike johnson did the right thing. i think that hakeem jeffries should protect them through the end of fear and then take the gavel in january. there is nothing of consequence left before the end of the year. just keep the government open until the democrats take control.>> thank you. another headline, and this involves shops and businesses shut down and protest. and that is coming next.

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he is for, in his words, forcibly removing with force protesters, he calls them pro- hamas protesters, most of them are pro-palestinian protesters in their own telling. the idea that this republican senator has such harsh ideas for how to deal with people protesting things he doesn't agree with feels like a hallmark of this republican party. >> well, listen, i haven't spoken, i don't know what is inside of other people's mind. i try not to spend my time inside of other people's minds around here. this is what i do know, i do know that our country is in a spiral right now. this is a spiral of partisanship. it is in a spiral of vitriol, it is in a spiral of extremism and what we really need to stop the spiral who will stop it from happening. are nation is at its best, what

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steve bannon and the base, stood beside our allies, and provided support for israel, ukraine, and taiwan. and this is an amazing moment, you know, given the bitter partisanship of our politics. you have this kind of bipartisan cooperation and this kind of quasi coalition that i wouldn't, by the way count on that lasting for very long. >> yes. just for this weekend only. we'll be back with my sound-off panel with a short break. we will discuss development at columbia university after pro- palestinian protests led to student arrests. now a warning for jewish students about their safety on campus on the eve of passover. ground shipping

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