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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:05:00

>> who was the second one? >> who was -- was there a third one? >> there was a third one. he took off. we cant identify him. >> knowing only that ellermans attacker has long hair, officers detain an inmate. but soon determine he wasnt involved, and the search continues. >> come on. one at a time. come on, guys. lets go. step up. >> just hang on. anything in your pockets? take it out. >> just this right here. >> a short time later, another inmate is taken in for questioning. >> weve got one guy w...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:54:00

Michael stafford knows a thing or two about violence. >> i got shot in the head years ago, and i got a big old hole in my ear here. thats where the bullet came out. the bullet went in underneath my right eye and came out my left ear. this window here is up higher than the wall. i remember coming up, i looked out there and seen a car going down the street. it donned and me, damn, there is a world out there. its been so long since i seen a car. >> but stafford has now left the cell with a view to ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:04:00

>> he just attacked me for no reason. oh, im sorry. >> thats all right. >> hey, whats his name? >> ellerman. >> call for the ambulance. call for the ambulance. >> hey, dont throw them away. theyre brand, spanking new. can you put them in a bag, please? >> yes, sir. >> okay. weve got another cut up here, guys. >> okay. >> how bad? is this worse than this? >> no. its okay. >> come on, man. >> while prison medics work on pat ellerman, officers continue their search for his attacker. >> were looking...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:26:00

Poke him a couple of times. if somebody was going to kill sen your family, what would you do? >> michael ray stafford is dealing with a different kind of loss. >> i havent had a haircut since october 1999. and i just -- this is the second time i got jumped on that they pulled all this hair out. boy, i hate losing that. >> after further questioning about the brutal stabbing of inmate pat ellerman, stafford is escorted back to the special management cell that he is assigned to until the investigat...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:47:00

>> you got anything down there? >> what do you need? >> food. >> ill send you some up later. just shut up, man. just stay out of trouble. you talk too much. stay out of trouble. stay out of trouble. >> love you, bub. >> see you later, man. straight idiot, man. if i could hit him in the mouth right now, i would. >> i let him down. >> how much time harrison spends in the hole will be determined in a disciplinary board hearing just like the one awaiting michael ray stafford for allegedly stabbing p...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:55:00

Stabbing, ellerman has returned to general population. >> i was stabbed ten times. i think i won the fight, he won the war. >> stafford received a year in the hole despite ellermans refusal to cooperate with the investigation. its all part of the convict code. >> im a convict. you dont tell nothing. thats just the way it is. i mean ive got to live here the rest of my life. i dont want anybody thinking that im weak, that im going to talk, that im going to say anything about anything. im not mad a...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:04:56:00

>> at what point did you realize you had been stabbed? >> at the very end i had him by the hair and i was upper-cutting him. i had new shoes on. then i noticed i had a couple of drops of blood on my shoe. so i stepped back like this and he reached up and went like this. and i noticed -- i was holding him so hard when he went like this, it was like a rubber band. bam, bam, bam. i said, oh, man. and i let him go. >> you were severely stabbed. im just curious how you wouldnt have felt that. >> beca...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171029:04:36:00

But no criminal charges were filed against him because ellerman refused to cooperate with the investigators. we caught up with ellerman on the day he returned to general population. >> after pat recovered from his injuries and we saw him back out on the yard, again, one of the first comments he made was about his shoes. >> see the blood on my shoes? thats why i stopped fighting, because i seen blood on my shoes. >> its indicative of prison life. you have so few personal items and you certainly d...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171029:04:35:00

>> we got another cut up here, guys. >> okay. >> well get you an ambulance. >> how bad? is it worse than this? >> we need to get him on the gurney, though, get him up front. >> the nerve damaged? >> i dont know. >> i didnt know what happened. >> the fact that the wounds were so graphic, they actually had to be blurred, it was best for all. they were some of the worst wounds ive ever seen. >> does it look all right? >> wanna go for a ride? >> the victim, pat ellerman, spent two weeks at a local h...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170904:05:56:00

Of impressed that he went that far. he could have cut me and ran. i didnt know he had a knife while he was cutting me. i didnt know. he had a knife. >> how did you not know? >> i was busy. i was fighting. >> at what point did you realize you had been stabbed? >> at the very end i had him by the hair and i was upper-cutting him. then i noticed i had a couple of drops of blood on my shoe. so i stepped back like this and he reached up and went like this. and i noticed -- i was holding him so hard w...
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