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Last secretary of homeland security, secretary nielsen, was waived away, was told not to mention russian interference to the president of the united states. you know more about the potential than the rest of us, but weve certainly been led to believe that on top of social media, on top of our elections, they also have a thorough reach into things like our power grids and -- and wheels of our american life that they can turn and control almost by whim. >> they have tremendous cyber capabilities, ...

Into things like our power grids and -- and wheels of our american life that they can turn and control almost by whim. >> they have tremendous cyber capabilities, thats right. and you just widened the aperture of other things we need to be worried about in addition to our campaigns and our elections. but i think we have to stop waiting for the administration to do it. in fact, brian, there are four things, very concrete acts that the u.s. congress could pass. the deter act, which ties new sancti...

Waived away, was told not to mention russian interference to the president of the united states. you know more about the potential than the rest of us, but weve certainly been led to believe that on top of social media, on top of our elections, they also have a thorough reach into things like our power grids and -- and wheels of our american life that they can turn and control almost by whim. >> they have tremendous cyber capabilities, thats right. and you just widened the aperture of other thin...