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Than -- >> but isnt tims point, which is the decision making is being made to preserve jpmorgan, is being made to preserve deutsche bank, is being made to preserve sock jen, as opposed to saying, were going to need to restructure this financial system. >> that was done here in 08. that was done in ireland. remember, ireland, their domestic banks got all this debt that they couldnt pay backse, d the irish taxpayers said, well take that and make all those private debts public debts. and the irish ...