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Amazing. >> right now? >> yeah, pbs.org/ali. any of the pbs platforms, also, you know, roku and amazon and -- >> im watching tonight. i am going to start it tonight. how many -- how many episodes? >> its four episodes. eight hours. and i cant wait for you to see it because i didnt make it for people that were interested in boxing. i knew theyd come along. what i was interested in, this person who turns out to be one of the most significant americans whos ever lived. and so relevant today as we s...

Its just so dramatic, each one, kinshasa. the first and second liston fights. the three frasier fights. the places when he lost, the places when he came back but he did lose 3 1/2 years at the height of his profession. but his fights before the draft thing consumed him are masterpieces. but he was willing, he said -- hes 22, to say i would stand before a machine gun rather than go against the teachings of my faith. he made a faith-based decision but as a black man in america in the mid-60s or ev...