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Well an hou late were not necessarily for it. i mean, right now -- >> it has -- >> theyre doing photo ops. its a mess. >> it has been whatever side youre on, it has been a dizzying week -- unfortunately we are going up against the time. >> push back, ed rendell. >> next time larry gets to push back. larry, ed, thank you for joining us, well be right back. pen carn help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express ...