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going to have to go through -- there are three women who will testify in that e. jean carroll case in ivanka's bedroom and the woman who claimed she was felt up on a plane, okay. these are the things that they're going to be hearing if they can hear them on fox news somehow. so how much dignity are they willing to shed? they're all marjorie taylor greene now what do they do if and when he's the nominee, they're stuck with him again, and he takes them down and everyone down down with him. how many cycles are they willing to go through this with him? >> we're about to find out because nothing is about to get better you think about where we're at right now with all the pictures on the front page news of the president making his perp walk and being the first former president to be arrested but, think about all of the things that will happen between now and the beginning of those primaries. all of the other cases, all of the other information. during that period, republicans are going to be forced to talk about this they're going to be forced to

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traditional perp walk ahead of his arraignment. what we see inside the courthouse will also be limited. last night in the judge in the case approved a request from trump's legal team to ban the use of cameras during the hearing. cameras will be allowed, though for a brief period before the arraignment gets under way because the indictment is still under seal, the exact charges trump faces are unknown, but they're believed to be about 30 counts related to falsifying business records after the arraignment, the former president is scheduled to fly right back to his florida home where he'll deliver a speech tonight about the case from mar-a-lago. trump has repeatedly denied the liaison with daniels as well as the hush money payment outside the courthouse in lower manhattan senior national correspondent for nbc news, jay

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over this. and he said last week he wants perfect photos of the perp walk. there's a reason for that, because even though the majority of republicans want somebody else to be the nominee, the pool say that he has a commanding plurality in the g.o.p. electric but he doesn't have the majority. the majority of republicans do not want him to be the nominee. but even people who do not want them to be the number need to know when a country turn into a banana republic where the justice system is used to go after political opponents. so, a lot of people going to rally around donald trump as a result of this. and it helps them. >> harris: them and put some numbers alongside what you're saying. new polling finds that while the majority of people do support the indictment of trump, 76% said that politics played a role. people are evenly split at 31% of whether or not this strength o weakens our democracy as a whole. and that of course is being the bigger picture and all of this. but it is fascinating because people just want this to shake

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back to the trump trial in new york — and in the blizzerd of coverage — it's interesting to look at some of the top searches online. a lot around some of the terminology flying around. indictment, arrangement, and perp walk in one of my relatives was ask me last night what is the difference between an indictment and arrangement and courtney is going through some of those bbc searches. a lot of interest in the story as you can imagine on google trends, quite heavy traffic in the last 2a hours and only likely to increase. a lot of the questions have been about the process itself, so let's go through it. first we have indictment, the part that has already happened, the formal charges and next we have the arrest and we are not likely to see him be led in

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Donald Trump Arrested, Making History

Call it the Perp Walk of the Century. Donald Trump made history on Tuesday by becoming the first former U.S. president to be arraigned on criminal charges…

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their side but they really are in a very different position so donald trump will find himself just like any other defendant, particularly any other sort of white collar defendant, where, yes, he can afford a very good legal team, but he's not going to be calling the shots the way he is used to when he's either the head of the trump organization or the president of the united states >> we're not expecting a mug shot we just got that information, but you were nodding when we were listening to andrea say for many of the folks who have been ceos or anyone else in a position of power, they're not used to ceding that power. that goes for whether you're in the courtroom and your legal team is telling you what to do, the judge is telling you what to do, or your security team is telling you what to do is that what the nod was for >> giuliani, in his day, when he was a prosecutor, understood the impact of the perp walk. the perp walk.

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talked a lot about his bluster and perp walk and leaks to the "new york times" about what he wants to do, he certainly didn't want to be seen out of control at the mercy of the judge, which is his new reality for as long as this case is a case >> so, again, we're still watching 56th street and we saw jason miller, donald trump's campaign spokesperson, last time around, and this time as well, just leave that building we also saw dan scavino who runs donald trump's social media and have been doing so for many years. it indicates to us we could be seeing donald trump any moment now. it will take him at least a few minutes to get from midtown manhattan, 56th street down to the courthouse in downtown manhattan. and in order for him to be on time, he should be leaving any second now and this might be one of the only glimpses we see of donald trump today, while he is in new york this short walk from those doors, those golden doors over to the waiting suv, that

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he never made any comments today, never addressed cameras there were discussions within the trump team about whether he should dump at one point even talking, according to "new york times" reporting how he should make a bigger show of it, reveling in the idea of wanting a perp walk. joyce, i want to talk about the tax issue here donald trump's lawyers are saying these a novel case, that the d.a. is relying on a state crime over a federal crime, to make it -- the addition of tax charges here still make it novel? or does it strengthen this case in a different way >> well, it's not nearly as novel as they would like to make it out to be this is as many of the former d.a.s in this office have told

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the hallway it is not -- it does not suggest a perp walk, that's what this is, if you boil it down, but he's welcoming that. you can see the hallway, when he comes out, all of these officers are going to be at attention this could happen at any moment, by the way it's 1:57 in the east. we expect at arraignment officially to start at 2:15. he may want to say something as he comes down after he's been processed. he's been fingerprinted. he's been read his rights. he's not had a mug shot, he is not handcuffed we expect he's going to speak. and that is the donald trump you have covered >> it is it is predictive of him, and characteristic of how he's handled his life, even if it's someone that he doesn't want to acknowledge, for you to go from former president and out of borough person who made it big,

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