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November 21, 2019
Suggestion. the secretary of state wont let me -- the department of state wont let me have my documents, and, obviously, i talked to the big shots but the big shots are being kept from testifying. then there was a counterargument. well, david hale got all his documents from the state department. why couldnt sondland? do you accept that premise? >> i dont. and if thats the case with mr. hale, its selective releasing of documents. and there are questions now that are fair. why dont you bring in mu...
November 21, 2019
Ambassadors dont directly have a direct line to the president. key surveillance targets. but ambassadors typically coordinate their work through the national security council. they didnt go directly to the president. what we learned today is gordon sondland considers his work to be part of a regular channel because the leadership was involved. rather than sitting down and having an inner agency channel, there was this informal process, ill call it irregular because it was so out of touch with re...
November 21, 2019
When he was named as part of the u.s. delegation led by secretary rick perry to president zelenskys inauguration. lieutenant colonel alexander vindman also attended the inauguration and as holmes recalls, during a meeting with president zelensky, took the opportunity to advise the new ukrainian leader to stay out of u.s. domestic politics. another concern that arose for dr. hill around this time was her discovery of a potential nsc back channel on ukraine. hill learned an nsc staff member who di...
November 21, 2019
Delegations meeting with president zelensky. during the meeting, secretary perry passed president zelensky a list that perry described as, quote, people he trusts. secretary perry told president zelensky that he could seek advice from the people on this list on issues of energy associate reform which was the topic of subsequent meetings between secretary perry and key ukrainian energy sector contacts. embassy personnel were excluded from in of these later meetings by secretary perrys staff. on m...
November 21, 2019
Sondlands newfound assertiveness concerned dr. hill who previously enjoyed a cordial working relationship with the ambassador. on june 18, 2019, hill had a blow-up with sondland when he told her that he was in charge of ukraine policy. dr. hill testified that sondland got testy with me and i said who has put you in charge of it? he said, the president. on july 10th, dr. hill was part of a meeting at the white house with a group of u.s. and ukrainian officials, includng bolton, sondland and energ...
November 21, 2019
To the inauguration from over a dozen individuals to just five. secretary perry as its head, special representative for ukraine negotiations kurt volker, representing the state department, national security council director alex vindman, representing the white house, temporary acting charge daffaires joseph pennington representing the embassy and ambassador to the eu, gordon sondland. ambassador sondlands mandate as the accredited ambassador to the european union did not cover individual member ...
November 21, 2019
Mulvaney, pompeo, pence, perry, if they came to testify, nobody wants to be michael cohen sitting in jail. >> everybody stand by. were getting new and important information about the timing for a full house vote on impeaching the president of the united states. not whats easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. thats how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martins family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his ne...
November 21, 2019
President trumps decision on that may 13th day, do you remember when the meeting was with president orban? >> i do. it was in may. >> do you remember what time of day it was on the 15th? >> to be honest, usually these meetings are around lunch time. sometime in that time frame. in the kind of early to mid part of the day. but i cant speak for sure. i want to be very clear that i cannot speak about head of state engagements. >> okay. jennifer williams testified that she learned about 11:00 or 11:...
November 21, 2019
Better word the u.s. delegation around? >> so i joined them in some of their meetings but not for the entire day. >> who was the official -- who was on the official delegation? >> it was five people. so it was the head of the delegation secretary perry, and then it was ambassador volker representing the state department, ambassadores sondla, our temporary charge daffaires and alex vindman. and alex vindman and vinland. >> you testified that perry gave a list of some sort to president zelensky in...
November 21, 2019
As though the cancer of wrongdoing may have spread beyond the president and into others of the executive branch. i want to ask you a few questions about that. before i do, i would like chairman to enter two articles into the record if i could. one of them headlined after boost from perry, backers got huge gas deal in ukraine. the other one titled "the wall street journal," federal prosecutors probe giulianis links to ukranian energy projects. mr. holmes -- >> without objection. >> thank you, cha...