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Pompeo. can you read what you wrote on july 19th to this group, please? >> he is prepared to receive potus call, will assure him that he intends to run a fully transparent investigation, will turn over every stone. he would greatly appreciate a call prior to sunday so he can put out some media about a friendly and productive call, no details, prior to ukraine elections. >> when you say will assure him that he intends to run a fully transparent investigation and will, quote, turn over every stone...

Maybe that is for the lawyers to answer. what changed today? things changed in a major way for two secretaries, perry and pompeo. that is a big deal. not only do they have to answer for the aid question but why on earth were cabinet secretaries taking direction from rudy giuliani? never confirmed by the senate. no security clearance. what business did they have consulting with him on their official duties, i would like to know. >> because the president told them to. >> that is a failure of leade...

The next day, is that right? >> thats what it says. >> now lets go to the press statement you were discussing in august. you testified, i believe, you understood that rudy giuliani was representing the presidents in trust with regard to ukraine, is that right? >> thats what we all understood. >> when you mean you all who do you mean question mike >> secretary perry, ambassador volker, myself. >> in august you and the basset of where coordinating with under year mark, the zelensky aide come about...

His deposition, "i didnt take it as instruction, but a comment. talk to rudy, he knows these things." and that hes got some bad people around him, referring to the ukrainians. ambassador volker hasnt testified that there is any sort of order or direction to talk to rudy. >> i dont know what he testified. it became very clear to all three of us that if we wanted to move the relationship forward, president trump was not interested in engaging. he wanted rudy to handle it. as i said in my opening s...

That you referenced in your opening statement that is a jul. who is this from? >> it looks like, is it from me? i dont know. >> its from me to the group. >> who is the group? >> people mentioned on the email. blair, cannot, mccormick, mulvaney, perry, pompeo. >> who is robert blair? >> i believe he is a deputy chief of staff or an advisor to the chief of staff. >> youve already told us that who is brian mccormick? >> he was the chief of staff for secretary perry. and then we see mr. mulvaney and...

American officials that he would assure president trump that he would do these investigations in a phone call. >> in my email, i obviously had just spoken with him and he, being zelensky, and he said that he was prepared to receive the call and he would make those assurances to president trump on that call and then presumably that would then lead to the white house meeting. >> you had been discussing this phone call for several weeks now, is that right? >> yes i think with volker, with perry, wi...

That, right? >> the secretary was. thats why its in my email. >> lets look at your emails. there are two emails you sent to the secretary, right? >> mm-hmm. >> here? >> august 22nd. >> august 11th. >> so, the august 11th email, we went through this before. im sorry to go through it aga again. you said to the secretary, "kurt and i negotiated a statement to be delivered for a review in a day or two. the contents will hopefully make the boss happy enough to authorize an invitation. z plants have a...

Volker, perry and myself. investigations. this is from mr. yermak to me. and the vice president nodded, like, you know, he heard what i the following day, august 11th, said, and that was pretty much it, as i recall. and this is critical, i sent an >> and you understood that the email to counselor brechbuhl and ukrainians were going to raise lisa kenna. the security assistance with the vice president at this meeting? lisa kenna was frequently used >> i didnt know what they were going to raise, bu...

On the lawn on a nice sunny day. >> did you retire to the ward room? >> i think secretary perry asked to use the ward room to continue the conversation. and theco real subject that was under debate, and it wasnt an angry debate, it wasan a debate just should the call from president trump to president zelensky be made prior to the parliamentary elections in ukraine or after the parliamentary elections. and there was good reason for both. we felt, ambassador perry, ambassador volker and i, thought...

Go talk. he said talk to rudy. you subsequently said it was sort of like i dont want to talk about this. so it wasnt an order or a direction to go talk with mr. giuliani, correct? >> our conclusion and the conclusion of the three of us was that if we did not talk to rudy, nothing would move forward on ukraine. >> okay. and then that was may 23rd. you never had personal communications with rudy until august. >> thats correct. >> and ambassador volker was -- >> volker and perry and others. >> okay...