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>> it was not in any record i july 25th call. and this is consistent with the reported comments from received. >> but when you did see --. ambassadors volker and taylor. after the zelensky meeting, i >> yes, i saw that in september, also met with zelenskys senior correct. >> so on this continuum, the aide, andre yermak. beginning of the continuum begins on may 23rd when the president instructs you to talk i dont recall the specifics of our conversation, but i believe the issue of investigations ...

At one point attributed to you the terminology that the president has given you a large remit. are you familiar with her assertion of that? >> i didnt understand what she was talking about. >> okay. but we have -- and you got into this a little bit in your deposition, you know, you said that the president gave you a special assignment with regard to ukraine, correct? >> well, when the president appointed me as u.s. ambassador to the european union, ukraine was part of my portfolio. what happened...

Deposition said, i didnt take it as an instruction, but just as a comment, talk to rudy, you know, he knows these things, and youve got some bad people around, referring to the ukrainians. ambassador volker hasnt testified there was any sort of order or direction, talk to rudy? >> i dont know what he testified. it became very clear to all three of us that if we wanted to move the relationship forward, president trump was not really interested in engaging. he wanted rudy to handle it. and as i sa...

Or the other american officials that he would assure president trump that he would do these investigations in a phone call. >> in my email, i obviously had just spoken with him, he -- "he" being zelensky, and he said he was prepared to receive the call, he would make those assurances to president trump on that call, and then presumably that would then lead to the white house meeting. >> t and you had been discussin this phone call for several weeks now, is that right? >> yes, i think with volker...

Ambassador sondland was even involved in ukraine? i mean hes the ambassador to the european union. theres obviously a lot of stuff going on with the european union. ukraine is not part of that. i mean is it clear the chain that got him in the middle of all this other than being a trump donor? >> well, its not entirely clear. what we know is that marie yovanovich, the ambassador to the ukraine, was really, you know, at the heart of our foreign policy in ukraine all the way up until she was uncere...

Mr. sondland mentioned investigations and reportedly the meeting ended abruptly, what can you tell us about that? >> thank you. and let me answer that question first, i would like to come back to your prior question if i may. but on the july 10th meeting, this was a meeting that we had arranged between alex to nelly oak who was the national head of security defense counsel, and national security advisors bolden attending the meeting was also secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, i believ...

There was testimony that at some point, ambassador sondland mentioned investigations and reportedly the meeting ended abruptly. what can you tell us about that fact? >> thank you. and let me answer that question first, i would like to come back to your prior question too, if i may. on the july 10th meeting, this was ail meeting that we had arranged between alex dimiliuk, national security adviser bolton. attending the meeting was also secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, i believe fiona...

Inauguration. we got corroboration of your reporting who said, indeed, while perry was there for the inauguration, he handed a piece of paper to the incoming ukranian president telling him, heres my guys. heres my campaign donors from texas. you might want to talk to them about energy issues. holmes didnt further address the issues that you reported how at least one of those donors went on very shortly thereafter to receive a rich contract from the ukranian government and an oil and gas drilling...

Vice president biden with the ukrainians or inflated ukrainian corruption with investigation of the former vice president. in retrospect for ukrainians it would have clearly been confusing. in hindsight, i now understand that others saw the idea of investigating possible corruption involving ukrainian company as equivalent to investigating biden. i saw them as very different. the former being appropriate and unremarkable, the latter being unacceptable. in retrospect, i should have seen that conn...

Z z president zelensky. >> he could hear my call with president trump asking about investigations. after the call, asking what president trump thought about the campaign. ambassador sondland said he cares more about biden which he was pressing for. >> reporter: saying he thought the testimony misled lawmakers. >> gordon sondland did not tell all of the -- >> reporter: including white house chief of staff, mick mulvaney and energy secretary, rick perry. both mulvaney and perry refused to testify....