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For a role you played in it. i will leave us with this one story. i was in miami when donald trump was campaigning and i was talking to a gentleman who was telling me why he liked donald trump and he said its hes going to be tough on immigration, hes going to deport all these undocumented immigrants. i said president obama has deported more undocumented immigrants than anybody. i mean, hes done it more. and the guy looked at me in the face and said thats not true, youre lying. i said, no, there ...

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The guy looked at me and said i dont believe you. i dont believe you. >> part of what trump has done so effectively is undermine the credibility of institutions. the federal government. justice department. in particular the media. where were in a position where it is hard to present facts and have them be accepted at face value. >> pew stats, guys. pew stats. no ones arguing with pew. guys, thank you very much. next up, the one issue president trump will not bring up with north koreas dictator...

Themselves? >> first, there is just this culture of grievance. things have not gone right for them in terms of -- i dont want to paint with a broad brush but some of trump supporters, the argument he articulated during the campaign was you have been lefd behind, thatthereople have got a better deal, whether -- some international organization is doing better and your expense. he tapped into that anger. at least at this point they are willing to follow that along even though their actual day to da...