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Compassionate with the understanding i needed help. >> he was refered to a local ex-gay organization. >> i thought i would go a couple days without being attracted to men but then i would have a sexual slipup so i thought im failing again. >> five years into therapy sean hit a low point and again, tried to kill himself. desperate he moved to california and joined a live-in program for gay men trying to become straight. >> very controlling environment. we went to work. after we got home, we had d...

>> joining me now is lisa ling who spoke with alan chambers for our special on the own network. first of all, its great to have you back on the program. >> thank you. >> did it surprise you alan chambers apologized they shut the doors? >> it did surprise me when he said he wanted to apologize to all gay people and people harmed by exodus because its acre knowledging that thoses had their lives harmed by it. what now? last year they stopped condu conducting therapy and this year he wants to apolo...

Of an organization to try to convert people or cure people of homosexuality because he says its not possible. he himself as gary tuckmans report indicated still says he has same section attraction as does 99.9% of the people that have gone through the program. >> i interviewed a number of people that say they are ex-gay they will acknowledge that they still have the attractions, as you just said alan does, that they still have the thoughts. they are just forcing themselves or training themself n...

Rubio are much more interested in getting immigration reform done because they are worried about being beaten by democrats that get more hispanic voters and you have the house polar rised and people from red, red districts. their concern isnt democrats but getting primary challenges from conservatives so thats why they dont want to do this. john boehner, the house speaker compared it to obamacare which is a four letter word for republicans, that kind of says it all. >> dana, thanks, interesting....