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Demonstrable hacking of our adversary and effort by the russian government to influence our investigation. thats far more serious than watergate and i think its far more serious that we find out what happened rather than be concerned about leaks about the investigation into the truth. >> philip, john, thank you. >> could i just -- >> quickly. ive got to get to the next guest. go ahead. >> none of the leaks that came out in watergate were in advance of the story. they were always about six weeks ...

Philip first. >> i dont know how many need to be lawyering up, as you put it. but now that there is an investigation into the trump campaigns possible collusion with the russian hacking, there is obviously some exposure. and i think its also important to point out what hasnt yet been discussed, perhaps because people have been kind of busy, could not have read the actual appointment letter from the deputy attorney general. but he not only says that the special counsel has authority to investigat...

A special counsel. that memo and the revelation of it was pretty powerful information. i would suspect phil might agree on that. im not sure. >> do you think -- >> i fully agree. >> go ahead, philip. >> i agree. i think the fact that the fbi director found it necessary to make this kind of memorandum from the file when he came back from the white house meeting is an indication that he was feeling a bit exposed and chagrinned and i think it also must have been a factor in the sudden change of min...

Employment period for white collar defense lawyers. >> philip, you wrote an interesting piece in "the washington post." you write, "leaks may be manipulative but as in watergate, they may be as central to the transparency and accountability that the american public has the right to respect." explain that. >> yes, what i was suggesting was that one of the -- the last safeguards, one that we would least like to encourage but one that i think is necessary, is the unauthorized leaking of information...