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6:25 p.m. it's at facebook.com/andersoncooper/full circle opinion right now i want to hand it over to chris cuomo. cuomo prime time starts now. >> you were wondering where the rain is, now you know. it's right on anderson's head. hurricane florence is starting to come around for the coast of the carolinas. anderson is going to stand by. we have correspondents up and down the path of the storm for you. here is hurricane florence, very slow, that's the problem with this storm. when she comes, she stays, and she's dumping water in places that don't have a lot of tolerance for it, by the time the wind gets to you, the areas have been soaked. currently just over 80 miles east-southeast of where anderson cooper is. let's go to where we're seeing the storm in full effect already. brian todd is in ham stead, north carolina. what's the weather?
you have to keep your eye on that situation. we have an assisted living facility not far from the area where we're getting pounded right now. >> it's good, we've been talking to city and county officials. they learned from hollywood florida. there are no assisted living facilities or nursing homes in north mert el beach proper. the ones in the surrounding areas, they have generators ready. they have fuel ready, to cool down those areas, if there's any type of trauma to the facilities. hopefully that's a lesson learned. it was explained to me that florence is working the body before she works the head. for a boxing metaphor, the rain is soaking all of the roads, all of the communitieses, all of the areas, saturating them, then once the wind comes with the surge, they will already be too soaked to really absorbed any of the blow. and that's their concerns. so what have you seen in terms
of change? time is the element. have you to be able to take about 18 to 30 hours of this. what are you seeing as a rate of decline in this situation. >> it's been declining rapidly. it's getting more inundated. can you feel it every 20 minutes or so, can you feel this, you can certainly see the surge coming closer to us, as we get hit with another band here, whipping side to side. we have to also point out this area had already gotten a lot of rain even before florence was a threat. this area is saturated. it makes it less able to with stand this kind of thing. the dire nature of this situation can't be overstated right now. it's going to get worse in the next few hours as we've all been saying, this is a storm that is moving very, very slowly. it's taking its time, lumbering past this area, and again, you can't say enough about the people who decided to stay, and
we've been without power for about four hours now 37 and had one tornado warning where we all sheltered in closets. it's pretty windy out there. >> safety first, rebecca. safety first, thank you for talking to us. this is no longer a discussion of should you stay, should you leave. you're here. do you have food in the freezer. do you have water. we brought in plenty of water and food and ice. and we're good to go for quite a while. that's your first concern much i know a lot of first responders
decided to stay. there was a call out for blood, put in the area today, just in case. so we understand people had to make different choices. do you have a concern about the time? usually you have to deal with this for six hours, eight hours, they're thinking this will last a day or two. >> we have plenty of supplies to last for days and days. we're more about, i have my three children here. and i'm worried about how long all of us will be able to stay in the house without going crazy. everybody's needing to do what they need to do, and we'll get through it. >> rebecca, how old are the kids? >> 16, 14 and 11, and my girlfriend is staying here, and her daughter is 17. and we've got -- >> 17, 16, 14 and 11 and four
have people in the area. thank you, we'll get the information out. >> thank you guys so much. i know it's a little bit hairy for the news reporters to be out here during all of this too. thanks for being here. >> we got it easy compared to you. %-p. this is about time. let's bring in tom seder right now. the word went out, there will be no surprise here, will the direction be a little different? yes. will the force be air little different? yes. this is going to be a long time, if you're losing power now. you're not going to have it for days in all likelihood. fair assessment? >> very fair. it's still 80 miles off shore, it's only moving at 5 miles an hour, it really put on the
the actual intensity went up by five miles per hour a couple hours ago, here we go. starting to see a full circulation around the core. here we go, it's dropped again. we have elements and factors of the environment that are fighting for it and fighting against it. one high pressure off to the west, this is running fwloo a brick wall like harvey did. it can go down even slower from leer. will it make its way on shore or not? other elements? the warm water, sure, you think we'll fire that engine up, that fuel line is still open, it's not over land. the rain inside the core is a cold rain. when it falls, it's going to fight that warmer water, that's going to try to fight it. outer bands over south carolina right now are creating friction. it tries to kick in dry air,
direction, we're only about 423 miles from the coast, a little further to wilmington, moving at this kind of speed, you get incredible rainfall totals. over a foot already at atlantic beach. when we look at these models we've been talking about, it still wants to bring it on shore south of wilmington, that's why they're in that core, the stronger winds. carolina beach. the winds will start to shift, this model now rides the coastline, it's a landfall when half of it is over land. but i cannot give you a time period right now. because there are so many factors if it's going to be on shore at what time. this could be late tomorrow, believe it or not. but because it's riding that coastline, you're still getting that surge of moisture feeding into the back of that eye, this is going to be going in for some time. there's a world of things that we can talk about. it's just beginning. the pictures we're seeing are nothing about like what we're going to see.
unfortunately. >> look, that's the truth, tom. you dropped a lot of science there, but you're right, we have a lot of time to talk about it, because she's moving so slowly that there's going to be a lot more fatigue in the audience than there will be in the storm, and you're going to have the backside of this storm where we are, right in new myrtle beach, south carolina, about 9, 10 miles inland. it's going to take longer for her to get here, because of the track south. she's going to be carrying more things into a funnel effect here. the concern is, people will have 8, 10, 12 hours of this, they haven't seen a storm in 20 years of anything like this kind of proportion. we were right. soon as the number went down, the threat went away, and all along there's another 15, 18 hours of water and wind coming behind it, so for the people here at new myrtle beach and parts south, what's the word of warning? >> the word of warning, it comes --
>> north mert el beach and parts south. >> the worst of it will start to move in tomorrow morning for you, but it's not until the winds start to shift later in the day, that you're going to see the worst of it, you get down it myrtle beach, that main drag -- i'm drawing a blank. where you have all the high rises. the winds are going to increase at height, floor by floor. even if it's a category 2, anyone who's on the 30th floor, the winds are 20% higher. it's going to get worse as we go through the day tomorrow. it's not going to get better for the outer banks until tomorrow, it will improve from the north to the south. when you look at this increasing surge heading in one direction. all the water is coming out on the southern flank. visually those who have stayed lindh say this isn't such a bad thing, because the winds are on the back edge here. you haven't even gotten into that main flow that's going to
push all of us through. typically, these storms will come through with one high tide cycle. that's what we originally thought a few nights ago, now they're going to go through 2 maybe 3, and the low tidewater never comes out. >> just so people remember how the tide cycle works. it's six and six. from low tide, you have six hours until you have low tide. there's a little period of slack in between. high tide can make a big difference especially for places that can't tolerate more saturation. >> just after midnight tonight, and then after noon tomorrow, and then 1:00 in the morning. and 1:00 p.m. that's about your time period. >> right, so those are the high tide cycles, we're going to see several. the story of this storm is going to be duration, impact, only time will tell. it's one of those cliches we hear in storms, especially with
this one, it's the most accurate mode of assessment. let's take a break right now, when we come back, florence has already made an impact. here's part of the problem with, a storm sitting so slowly in an area. when do you go out and do the rescues? when do you start recovery? if the wind speed is too high, you can't risk first responders. we already have damage, now the clock is ticking about when those areas could get help. we'll take you through it next.
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hours by the time you get the big bands of win from whatever category the storm is, even if it's a tropical depression at that point, it will be more than enough to create real problems. how do i know? i've been told by local officials who have been educating me on the process here. let's bring in jay fernandez. so far so good. there's a false since of security, we saw it on the beach today. >> yes, that's very true. we started evacuating when the governor issued the order on tuesday. and we've aggressively been putting the message out. we're probably at about 85, 90% evacuated that means about 1,000 are still in town. my wife evacuated with our son to alabama. i was happy they got out of town. >> you're going to protect your family, do the right thing.
be safe rather than sorry. it's not too bad. what is the risk? >> you're right, the storm is going to last a long time we're looking at 30 plus hours of 50 miles an hour or more, starting after midnight, actual hurricane hours, probably 9 hours of hurricane strength rain, and storms. that's devastating, plus with all the rain, 30 plus inches of rain, that's going to compromise as you mentioned earlier, the soil, trees are going to fall, they're going to knock power lines down, they may hit houses. we're going going to be able to respond. our response protocols say at 35, we're very limited on where we go. at 50 we shut it off. we will evaluate the calls, if there's a critical call coming in after 50 miles an hour, but that will be a case by case
situation. don't have anyone believe we're going to come. we're not going to come unless it's a critical critical. >> people don't think about the lives of the first responders when they make the decision to stay. they confuse bravery with temerity. once you get above 30 miles an hour, 40 miles an hour, you can't safely send people out and guarantee their return. if you have 12 hours of 50 miles an hour, that's 12 hours a lot of people may have to wait. >> that's correct. you're right, i have about 135 policemen and firemen on duty right now. we do not want to risk their lives because somebody chose to stay. that's not going to happen. >> one of the things we're going to do is, while we're here locally, we're starting a phone tree. we're checking in on people, spreading numbers, so as they have problems, they'll be able to contact us.
if you have information people need to hear, let us know. i'm glad your wife and child got out safely. what kinds of things are we dealing with in the storm? there's a wide variety of concern. the buildings falling down. power being down. people being stuck in their house. then there are these x factor considerations you have to deal with. right now we have someone on the phone, jennifer gordon. she works with an organization. it's good to have you on the phone, we were talking to you earlier. you were trying to move animals from a sanctuary, away from the harder areas of the storm. and there was a mishap, and we started to see it all over the place online. what lapped with the transporting of the animals?
>> we had a -- >> all right, i don't have jennifer. try to get her back on the phone. and let me tell you the story quickly. and we'll get jennifer back on. >> jennifer, can you hear me now? >> hello? hello? >> jennifer, can you hear me? >> no, i can't hear you. i can hear you, can you hear me? yes, we're good now. tell us what happened with the animals. >> we had a couple hundred animals at a sanctuary on the coast. we lined up multiple transports to get the animals out of the hurricane area. they're right in wilmington where the hurricane's going to make landfall. we had the cajun navy and a few of those volunteer sites where people volunteered to help. over the course of the few days, we've had quite a few
transporters, we moved the donkeys and goats and emust and swans out of the sanctuary. we had three different transports leaving there today, we were running out of time. and the people were having trouble getting in, and the wind was -- the rain was already coming in. and so we were beating the clock trying to get out. and we strapped the animals down, the transporter that was there, they were evacuating people and had some room for animals in his truck. he put some crates in the back, he strapped them down, but the force of the wind we think is so strong, while he was going over the bridge. that usually will give you a gust. and it pushed the strap loose or the crate out. we don't really know what happened. and it fell out. >> we heard that as a result,
some of the crates wound up falling out, and there wound up being calls to find the animals, and there was a search area brought out. you started to get reports from local farms of animals being dropped off. there was a pelican on a box waiting for rescue, and ultimately you ended up getting back all of the animals except a hawk? >> yes, we're missing a red tail hawk, it's a male, his name is achilles. he's an ambassador for a wildlife refuge on the coast. he relies on people to survive. he can't survive on his own in the wild. half of his wing was amputated. >> we're glad you got just about all of them back, we'll stay in the loop with you if anything happens. you keep us apprised of the situation. >> thank you for having us.
>> pets always end up being part of the equation. we know our pets are part of the family. they wind up part of the safety calculation, your decision about what to do. many of the shelters don't allow dogs, what do you do? are you going to leave your pets when they're a part of your family. a lot of people choose not to do that. you're going to hear the stories about the wild horses in the outer banks that live on beaches. they say instinct will keep them safe from the storm. will that happen? the longer this storm is here, the more variability of outcome, we're going to see. rear going to leave you with a picture of what's going on in different areas. you saw in newburg north carolina they have power down, increasing flooding there, and about a day and a half of storm and hurricane type conditions to go. so when we come back, we'll take you through the latest on hurricane florence.
she's just getting started. the worst is yet to come.
all right, here we are, we're watching hurricane florence, she's now about 65 miles east-southeast of wilmington, north carolina, the effects are starting to be felt. let's go to someone who is literally chasing this storm. reid timer at topsail beach you're getting pelted. give us the latest. >> i don't hear him. >>. >> tell reid to get back inside so he's not getting beaten up like that, let's go to anderson cooper. i don't want to leave him out there soaking, thinking he's being heard. when he's just getting punished by the beginning of this hurricane. you've had what they're calling a signature experience of florence. hey, it's not that bad, and then
comes the rain and bands have a lot of time between them, that's all about the pace of the storm, right? >> yeah, and, you know, i think there's a lot of people right now, who kind of think, maybe this thing isn't going to be that bad, and certainly let's hope that's the case, but i think this is really deceptive. this is -- you know, we're so used to paying attention to what category it is, a cat 4, cat 3, it's now a cat 2. this is really -- as you've been talking about, going to be a long event. we're talking about days, 24, 36 hours of nonstop rain constant rain and that storm surge. in wilmington, as you know, chris, they're expecting eight months worth of rain over the next three days. they've already had a huge amt of rain all year long. so it's really the last thing they need plus with that storm surge on the river like cape fear river behind me, which
they're expecting, it could be record storm surge, record levels of the river, beating what it was back in 1999 with hurricane floyd, it was more than 23 feet above normal. so they're expecting it to go higher than that this is going to be a multiday event. and this is really just the beginning. we're in the beginning hours of this. i think a lot of people haven't been through a system as big as this one is. >> duration and delay. so if we're looking at like 30 hours of some form of major storm ago differty. then you deal with, how long until the first responders can get out there. how long until they can start getting out to help those in distress, especially the people who decided to stay behind. i keep hearing -- what are you hearing up there, 30 miles an
hour, 50 miles an hour, first responders have to stay in. and we're hearing they could have wind conditions like that for 12 to 20 hours. >> and also with all this water on the ground. that's a huge concern as you know for people driving out there, power lines are down, there's going to be a lot of water on the ground in a lot of different areas, the mayor of wilmington i talked to him earlier tonight, he was talking about 20, 30, 40 inches of rain. coming down. they're expecting a lot of water on the ground. it's going to be on the ground for days. the river, they're not expecting it to reach its peak until tuesday. which gives you a sense for the time frame we're looking at here. water on the ground, no electricity in a lot of areas. people are going to be tempted to get outside, drive around, stretch their legs. walk their pets, and not be stir crazy, but officials are saying,
please stay inside, stay close to home opinion there's a lot of danger, you don't know how deep the water may be in some areas. >> yeah, and look, you have a lot of vulnerability. everyone's known that about the carolina coast. we learned it in depth during hurricane hugo, it complaininged the topography of this place. where we are here what do they call this coastline again? >> the grand strand is what they call all these beaches down the carolina coast here, with the beautiful high rises. they dumped so much sand here to build it up five feet. it doesn't even deal with the normal high tide. there's pulling about 50 yards from the homes here, if that's just normal tidal activity at its saturation point, what an indicator of extreme vulnerability. so let's take a break right now. i'll check back with you when
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we're tracking florence, the worst is yet to come, but we're already seeing things that are bad enough. let's go to brian todd in ham stead, north carolina, we saw him in sheeting rain before, what's your situation now? >> chris, we were just at the edge of this old landing road where the intercoastal waterway was flooding the road, now we're going to show you what it's like for people who live near that storm surge and decide we need to try to get out. look at what people are going to go through on these roads. we have a vehicle, this is what they're going to dr. to deal with, chris. a lot of people have elected to
stay, and this is what they're being warned about we're going to pull the vehicle over, and i'm going to show you what the people are going to have to go through. i can point out some of the area dangers here. when you get out, we're used to this having covered the storms. we're getting hit with a really heavy band of wind and rain here. i can feel the trees really starting to bend and be compromised. you try to pull out of here too late in your situation and try to escape, this is what you're going to be dealing with, also on top of it all, we've had tornado warnings not far from here. these are tree lined roads, any kind of tornado that whips through here is going to bring down these trees, cause debris to fly all over the road, and then people are really going to be trapped. this is how people get trapped in these neighborhoods. if people are going to stay
through the storm surge and think they can make it out now? i don't think so. i'm hearing nasty wind behind me? >> well, look, we're hearing from local officials. if you're here now, it's time to shelter in place the decision has been made. the trees around you they may be young, they may be strong. but the earth underneath them is getting spongy and soft. let's go to tom seder, we're trying to put some numbers to the pictures we're seeing, what are we getting from this storm now? >> well, we've already seen our first 12 inch total in atlantic coast. what we're watching here, we've already had a c-130 fly in about we're getting updates now every hour. look at this, our first 100 mile per hour wind gust. cape lookout, ft. macon, sust n sustained hurricane winds are occurring at cape lookout, to
again this is moving in, but i want to talk about this rainfall, and, of course one of the worst hit areas has been new burn. it's going to be wilmington. wilmington has had its wettest year to date. when we talk about north and south carolina, the storm systems that have broken records as far as the most amount of rainfall for north carolina, it was floyd. in 1999 dropping 24 inches, florence is going to shatter that record. for south carolina, it's jerry in 1995. that storm dropped 18. so we're looking at 18 to not just create a new landscape here, and devastate the whole areas well inland. this is going to shatter records and go well into the record books, that's why a category 2 means absolutely nothing. we're getting updates every hour now, and we'll continue to share them with you. >> tom, do you agree with the
metaphor, somebody was telling me earlier, a different meteorologist, usually a hurricane as a boxing metaphor works the head, they're big shots, hey makers. this storm is working the body, soaking the earth. working that water table already. making it vulnerable. so when the winds do come, and the storm surge does come, it's working to great effect. they're worried that's what's going to make it devastating. >> and life threatening. 75% of fatalities in these tropical systems are water, surge is quite a bit because of the swift current, unfor thely, it's hard to talk about, those that drown, they're trapped in debris? their homes, electrocution. it's sad to think about those things, but it's about water, water, water. what's coming in from the ocean and what's coming from above. that's a good metaphor, you're right, though. >> tom seder, thanks very much. let's take a break right now.
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south carolina. this is south of where wilmington is. there's reed timmer. he's getting beat up for us to take us inside the storm. hopefully he can hear us. reed? >> yeah, i can hear you loud and clear right now. we are getting northerly winds right now gusting 60 to 70 miles an hour. i'm right along highway 17. we just came inland from north carolina. we were there earlier saw the surge at noon. it was already coming over and inundating some of the homes. already causing some storm surge damage. another high tide coming up at 11:30 tonight. and that is when the worst of the storm surge is going to happen, is during high tide. but it's likely not going to go out after that with those winds continuing to batter the eastern side of the barrier island. but as we were driving south on highway 17 we saw numerous trees down almost blocking the road. we were able to get around them. right now we're trying to reposition south of that wobble to the west and head toward the wrightsville beach area,
possibly topsail beach to reposition when the surge comes in. right now with these northerly winds even as damaging as they are, they are coming off the land. so friction is slowing them down. but once that eye gets a little bit closer and those winds shift over to the northeasterly that's when they're really going to start ripping up the water and that storm surge is going to come up very fast and it's very likely that this storm is -- [ inaudible ] >> now, reed, usually a storm is going four or five times faster than this. what does this being slow, how does this -- how does that magnify the effect? >> there's nothing more dangerous than a slow-moving tropical cyclone, especially one that's hitting the brakes like this. because they produce such prolific rainfall rates. there's what's called warm rain processes out here. and that is when you have a bunch of very small drops and the rainfall rates are absolutely prolific. you can see all kinds of ponding on the roadways already out here. different types of flooding. river flooding, flash flooding.
also the storm surge inundation. and also a lot of these rivers. the ocean water will prevent the water from draining. and as the storm sits there spinning and almost moving stationary, it's just going to be catastrophic, and it's going to be mainly in terms of that water. >> we've got a long way to go. reed, pace yourself. try and get back inside and be dry. thank you for being outside. i'll check with you in a little bit. you let me know when it's time to come to you. i don't want to expose you for no reason. be well. right now on the phone is amber cordinay. she's in new bern. they have power outages there already. they have flooding. can you hear me, amber? >> i can. can you hear me? >> okay. how are you doing? >> i'm doing the best we can. >> power's out. do you have what you need right now? >> for now, yes, we do. we have what we need. the power keeps going in and out. i'm not sure we'll have it much
longer. >> did you take the precautions of filling up the bathtub, storing things in the freezer that you can? are you worried about flooding where you are? what's your situation? >> well, where we're at right now i don't think we have to worry about flooding. my house, which is about five minutes up the road, is beside the creek which is why we evacuated to my grandparents' house. we have had i family here. some of the surrounding areas are definitely at risk but where we're at i don't feel like is. >> good. anybody particularly vulnerable who you're with right now? anybody who has any special needs or medical needs? >> my grandmother has sleep apnea, but we do have a generator to keep her machine going. so as long as we don't run out of gas we should be okay in that aspect. for her to not be out of -- we at least have the means to get to a gas supply of some sort. >> and everybody's staying
behind. what was that about? were you unable to move your grandthat? why did you guys stay? >> the reason we stayed is because my family does a lot of rescue work with animals and we all have a lot of adopted animals and it's just not convenient to up and take all of them with us. the power just went out. that's really our reason for staying behind, to care for these animals. >> you know, it's interesting. if people aren't pet people, if they don't understand the attachment, when they hear that they say, well, you've got to go. you've got to take care of people first. what do you need people to understand about what your pets mean to you? >> that these pets trust you. when you make the obligation, they're your children and you should stick by them and not fail them. if you make the obligation you need to follow through with it. that is what i do with every single one of my animals, and i will continue to do that. >> what do you have?
what are your furry family? what different people? what different types of animals do you have? >> oh, gosh. we have a wide variety. mostly are pit bulls simply because they're very misunderstood breed and i try to work with them and get them back to 100%. we have shar-peis, hound dogs. we have cats, we have chihuahuas. throughout my whole family we have a huge variety of different breeds. >> all right. amber, keep everybody, you know, upbeat and happy, and hopefully you have the provisions you need to make it through this period. if you get in a state of distress we've got the phone tree working here. please call us and let us know so we can get the information out. be well. okay? >> definitely. thank you. >> all right. miguel marquez is in carolina beach. they've been seeing bands of weather as well. let's check in. miguel. >> yeah. it's starting to come down here. the wind is picking up. the rain is coming down in much
more steady fashion. this storm moving so slowly. i mean, they've really expected to see the weather that we're seeing right now several hours ago. and they're still now waiting to see the worst of it. they dpp texpect the storm surg come in between 6 and 13 feet. if it comes in at high tide, which is five or six feet, they're expecting many, many homes to flood in this area. they're also expecting between 20 and in some areas 40 inches of rain. just a massive amount of water coming down over a 24, 36-hour period here. a third of the time they expect to be inundated and underwater and the town also cut off. there's a street appropriately named canal street that goes through town that floods on smaller showers. they dpp that to be flooded and at this point telling residents that stayed here about 600 of the 6,200 people that live in this town, saying that you may be cut off for the next five to seven days.
chris? >> that's the problem. right? duration. we've seen what you're dealing with right now, not unusual. the kind of flooding that they're expecting, not unusual in terms of its numbers. but the duration and what it could mean over that time. is that something they've been able to prepare for? >> the city is certainly prepared for that. they have police officers at a skeletal staff at the city, at a command center for emergency management, not too far from where we are. they have cars, they have boats at the ready, they have food, they have water, they have everything they need to survive and help people if they can as these winds pick up in the next couple of hours it's going to be very difficult for emergency crews to get out. we've seen some out and about so far tonight. they didn't expect to be able to make calls tonight. but they are so far. in the next hours ahead they're going to have to make the call as to whether or not it's going to be too dangerous to get out there. and then they're going to have to wait until the storm blows
through and figure out how they're able to help those who need help. chris? >> again, the first responders and the local officials, want to us make it very clear what that's about. that's not about them being callous or shaming people who decided to stay behind. it's about safety. part of the calculation that people make when they decide to stay, when they've been told to evacuate, is that first responders are going to have to risk their lives to come get them. and they have a responsibility to the first responders to keep them safe. so in some municipalities it's 30-mile-an-hour sustained winds. other it's 50. they can't send them out. so miguel, again, i want to keep your battery charged. get out of that weather. let us know when it's changing and we need to come back to you. i appreciate it. >> and that's going to be the story of where we are here in north myrtle beach, south carolina. okay? it's about nine, ten miles of coast. and if you were to look at the map you'd see we're inset in kind of a cutout. they call it the just coast here. and once it comes it will be
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