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Challenge that we face here, the articleny field manual is established basis to use for interrogations. we, cia, are not in the detention program. we are not con testimony plating at all getting back into the tension program using any of those eits. so i defer to the policymakers in future times when there is going to be the need to be able to ensure that this country stays safe if we face some other type of cry sisz. >> i defer to the policymakers, means if they want to do this again, they know...

Stays safe if we face some other type of cry sisz. >> i defer to the policymakers, means if they want to do this again, they know our number. we know how to do this stuff. joining us now is ali sufan, a former f.b.i. special agent. hes the author of the black banners, the inside story of e 9 9/11 and the war against al-qaida. i have to just ask you as somebody who is the initial interrogator of the first al-qaida tar get, your story and that piz e prisoner are a big part of just what was present...

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