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Interview with the fbi that is totally different than the sitting president of the united states sitting down with the special counsel. it was a voluntary interview that wouldnt have been transcribed. he sees her still as a threat and we were talking about how the wall was not a literal thing and more a way of talking about his approach on immigration. i think mentioning hillary and for him she represents his detractors and enemies and the people he has to push back on. >> he needs an enemy. >> ...