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Eikenberry, mcchrystal, they were at each others throats. hell try to pull together allies. theres 45 nations there with us on the ground and then finally got to get karzai in some sense to cooperate and building a viable non-corrupt, competent state. i just dont see how you do that in less than five years to 25 years. >> well, of course, theres much more to talk about on this. but for now, general, thanks for being with us. good to see you. >> good to be with you, lynn. next, a potential brea...