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And i think it is fair. i think it is smart to have an oversight because that is what they were elected for, to be an oversight. to be a check and to talk about issues that really matter to the folks that theyre representing. >> carol, as our investigative reporter at the table, a lot of people at the end of this day and at the end of this week where we learned about a counterintelligence investigation to determine whether in fact the president was working on behalf of the russians, this was an ...

Quote, appreciates the statement from the special counsels office, but as we mentioned, buzzfeed stands by its reporting. here is one of the storys co-authors speaking to cnn yesterday. >> anthony, doo you have any why you evidence since thursday night that supports your story? >> i have further confirmation that this is right, were being told to stand our ground. our reporting is going to be borne out to be accurate and were 100% behind it. >> who is telling you that? >> im not going to talk ab...

Had im to lie, or that the special counsel was said to have learned this through interviews with the trump organization witnesses, internal company e-mails and text messages. >> there is a little irony in hearing president trump say that the statement coming out of the muellers team is correct after bashing mueller consistently. joining us now editor and chief of plit toe magazine blake hall southeast shall. everybody i assume in washington and here they are talking about this buzzfeed debacle, ...

He gave congressional testimony? >> as far as i know president trump did not have discussions with him, certainly had no discussions with him in which he told him or counseled him to lie. if he had any discussions with him, they would be about the version of the events that michael cohen gave then which they all believe was true. >> but you just ak nongd that its possible that president trump talked to michael cohen about his testimony. >> which would be perfectly no recall al. which the preside...

About this up until he became the nominee, republican nominee, which could have been summer of 2016. id like to stick with whats in the actual court record. i think thats a good place to be. >> and we also heard from rudy giuliani today on this topic saying he wouldnt rule out the idea that the president and michael cohen had spoken in some form about the testimony. while its been disputed now that he said he told michael cohen to lie before congress, of course, rudy giuliani says thats not true...

Congressional testimony are not accurate. buzzfeeds reporters said one more today they stand by their reporting. but when buzzfeeds leopold reached out to carr, he declined to comment in part because leopold made no reference to the special counsels office or to evidence it uncovered. joining our discussion to break it all down, national investigative reporter for "the washington post" and nbc news contributor carol leonnig. thank you guys all for being with us. carol, i want to start with you q...

Communication the president had with michael cohen about trump tower moscow? >> before the investigation, during the period that theyre looking at, they did have conversations about it. the conversations lasted throughout parts of 2016. the president is not sure exactly when they ended. probably up to -- could be up to as far as october, november. our answers cover until the election. so any time during that period they could have talked about it. >> that was president trumps lawyer rudy giulian...

President and that the special counsel had evidence of that. so we dont really know yet and buzzfeed is standing by its story, but i think its telling so far that other outlets have not followed their reporting, which suggests either that they have really burrowed in sources that only they have access to or it suggests that maybe they didnt get something quite right. i think the nuances here are extremely important. one thing we do know about president trump is that he doesnt always give clear i...

Keep working until get to the bottom of it. >> and congresswoman, democrats, as you witnessed in the last 48 or so hours, were quick to jump back on the drumbeat of impeachment talk surrounding the president after the buzzfeed report broke. its since been described as not accurate by the special counsels office here. did democrats jump the gun? is this something your party needs to be careful about going forward that it doesnt put itself in this position before they have all of the facts? >> let...

Contrived and obvious. >> you cant eat that. >> im not biting. >> thank you, lewis. coming up on "morning joe," a federal judge tells the nypd and mayor bloomberg hands off, ruling the controversial stop and frisk policy unconstitutional. but what will the impact be on law enforcement? former new york governor george pitaki will be here with eugene robinson. whitey bulger is found guilty but did the feds let him get away with murder? mike barnicle joins us. also hillary clinton breaks her ...