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By the spectre of this guy who is listening to joe rogan and internalizing this bad information and making bad choices as a result, but rogen is like a weed thats sprouting up outside the ecosystem and has thrived there and has this huge audience. thats whats scary that spotify could kick him off tomorrow and it wouldnt make a dent. it wouldnt make a dent in his audience, people would listen to him and still wouldnt trust more mainstream media sources. i think thats whats really frightening to p...

Bit. >> so when i hear on fox and friends its all about border youre making the point for fox viewers they do care more about the border than about trump dangling pardons for rioters. youre saying to the fox audience it is about other issues. >> yes. >> thats an important point. >> and i think that its -- you know, its not a bad thing, you know. the border issue is important for millions of americans and so its just a matter of who your audience is and what theyre interested in and its a differe...

Were seeing these battles all around, just on any given week we hear news about someone being banned from twitter. now you a days people are getting banned from tiktok. mostly right wing figures for violating various social media policies. all of this a massive tug of war over what content is heard and seen and where and why. lets bring back oliver darcy and bring in kat rosen field a culture writer and author who is with me now. kat, you wrote on twitter about spotify, went viral for a comment ...

Of war, some on the left want right wing distorters blocked from sites like youtube and twitter, some on the right want objectionable lessons blocked from schools. there are way more than two sides here and each case is unique, but think about the headlines this week about that tennessee district banning this holocaust-themed series of books. it happened a couple weeks ago, it wasnt until reporters in tennessee noticed that it became national news. look at this divide, look at this tug of war be...