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Malcolms point is -- >> why did he say that? >> why does donald trump say the things he says? who knows? but this counter intelligence aspect is very important. that is certainly what is going on. the question becomes what crimes can people be charged with. if some american who is connected to the trump campaign helped the russians leak some of these wikileaks documents is that a crime? is that representing a foreign government without registering? that is a pretty minor crime. >> but what if so...

They are looking for spies or people who have ties to russian intelligence from the trump campaign. >> what is the significance of the fact that i remember trump once went on television one time and said i want the russians to hack into the democrats, knowing what they are up to. is that prima facie evidence? >> this counterintelligence aspect is very important. that is certainly what is going on. the question is, what crimes can people be charged with? if some american who is connected to the t...

Shocked by that? >> the question is not that they tried, the question is, did they succeed? and the answer is absolutely no not. russia did not set up a private server in hillary clintons basement and put classified information on it. >> megyn: she said the best stuff but they exposed it. bad stuff. you think donald trump did nothing at all? there is nothing to find there? >> what im saying is i dont think this was the tipping point in the election in any way, shape, or form. most of these stori...

No other intelligence agency is backing up the cia on this. if that evidence is there, president obama owes this nation like president reagan did on the 007 downing that the russians did back in the 80s when and president kennedy had to have pictures at the u.n. showing the russian missiles in cuba. thats what is needed for the president to come back with this severe belief in response. i dont believe thats available by the fact that theres no new information. >> heres the question. ill put it t...

Backing up the cia on this. if that evidence is there, president obama owes this nation like president reagan did on the 007 downing that the russians did back in the 80s when and president kennedy had to have pictures at the u.n. showing the russian missiles in cuba. thats what is needed for the president to come back with this severe belief in response. i dont believe thats available by the fact that theres no new information. >> heres the question. ill put it to you, congressman king. in the ...

No other intelligence agency is backing up the cia on this. if that evidence is there, president obama owes this nation like president reagan did on the 007 downing that the russians did back in the 80s when and president kennedy had to have pictures at the u.n. showing the russian missiles in cuba. thats what is needed for the president to come back with this severe belief in response. i dont believe thats available by the fact that theres no new information. >> heres the question. ill put it t...