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authorities if he is indicted. we have full team coverage starting with my colleague msnbc anchor katie phang and katie, this is incredibl news to wake up to you you are the lawyer here. talk about what this means in terms of what we can ge essentially see from the mante eight ex week? >> thanks, jonathan. i think whats important t consider is that this is a truth social posed by donald trump. yes, it is breaking news because it is the former president of the united states but we haven...

Guilty verdict came out. they also were falsified business records avoidin taxes. it is sort of an underlyin thing that they were sayin its one thing it was. another i dont know if in addition to anything else yo had attorney but given everything that we have seen reported, and give your own reporting, do you think, or is it possible given all the evidence that is out there that the grand jury coul take a look at all of this given all of the testimony that they have heard >> i woul say that at t...