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Event -- the whole story is in the film, i dont want to give too much. but a conversation that was started from a point of disagreement in a phone call. then there was some nuggets of, you know, opportunity during this debate that sam felt like, you know, i should talk to this guy. then at that point maajid didnt know much about sam. >> was the point islam, christianity, religion in general is intolerant. >> i dont think sam would phrase it that way. >> im saying in the past that was sort of the...