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To back you up. in fact, justice kagan said that at a speech in princeton in 2018 where she said the only reason people obey our decisions is because they believe in our integrity and they believe that were fair. and so thats whats at risk when that sort of squabbling comes to the forefront. >> i want to read some of nprs reporting about justice kagan to you, brian. at oral argument, justice kagan, one of the courts best, sometimes takes a different approach. she shuts down rather than alienate ...

Wade, vaccine mandate all where they describe is an unusual level of tension among the justices themselves. npr says this, quote, anyone who regularly watches supreme court arguments is used to seeing testy moments in both big and little cases, but you dont have to be a keen observer these days to see something is happening. joining our conversation, msnbc contributor, voice vance and brian is here. so the supreme court is very opaque. theyre not, theres not like a white house press that reports...

Integrity in the eyes of the public and i think well see the chief justice step in and try to impose some order on the court that will be named for him in the history books. the real question is whether chief justice roberts will take these stories and use those to convince his colleagues that the time has come for the court to do an about face. >> it would appear if he has tried that, he has failed, brian, and if you cant get grown men to wear a mask to protect a colleague with type i diabetes,...

1970 statute that gave joe biden the authority to carry that out. at this point, joe biden cant sweep this issue under the rug of this collision course hes on with this republican supreme court. >> whats amazing, joyce, is we know from the little reports there is on the court, theyre acutely aware of their perception and i dont know they all view it as a problem. its clear the chief justice does and that the liberal justices do, but i want to read this, which builds on some of the points brians ...