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Kilimnik, his communications with kilimnik. also, its important to note that according to the special counsel, according to the judge now, part of what was going on was paul manafort was meeting with kilimnik to talk about some ukraine peace deal that apparently was being floated. >> right. >> perhaps that would have helped relieve sanctions on the russians, right? thats part of the story here. then the other thing is that he had passed polling data to kilimn kilimnik. there was a secret meeting...

The polling data, walked him through the polling data according to gates and explained it to him and all of that was in return for a peace deal having to do with ukraine. youre looking at a way for putin to make more money because its a way to get the sanctions lifted. the question is who was the member of the conspiracy and manafort is the man with the answer. >> this recommendation, 20 years is essentially a life sentence for manafort because hes 69 years old. what does that tell you about the...

House or senate. this guy opened an investigation that we now know not on fake newts, not on mueller or leaks. donald trump jr. said we are trying to get the dirt from russians on hillary, that he would love it. we have seen what they did to the republican -- >> there is nothing illegal about that. >> what is illegal is when manafort gives inside polling data to a russian spy -- >> polling data? that is what you hang your hat on? polling data? really? >> so the russians could know whom to target...

And is an embarrassment to the men and women of the fbi and our great country. >> i hope he is forced to testify before the house or senate. he opened an investigation we now know, not on fake news, not on mueller, not leaks, donald from junior said we are trying to get the dirt from russians on hillary, that he would love it. we are seeing what he did to -- >> theres nothing illegal about that. >> when manafort gives inside data to a russian spy. >> polling data? really? >> so the russians coul...

Is being used to figure out whether of conclusion or conspiracy did happen? >> well, the polling data is really something of a mystery. there is a mix we understood from our source sort of public polling data and private polling data done for the trump campaign. the suggestion is certainly is that could be abused of someone trying to help the trump campaign from the outside, potentially everyon the russian. we are engaged in this, some what sophisticated and certainly expensive election interfer...

Room. the three of them were there. they exchanged information of russian campaign intervention, thats the polling data. this is not suspicious at all. >> they left the meeting place, via separate entrances. eliot, what do you make of this argument? >> again, that separate entrance is what you call circumstantial evidence. it is what prosecutors would look at. lets be careful of the use of the term collusion because that does not appear as a crime in the federal code with that word. there is con...

Manafo manaforts attorneys have disputed he intentionally made false statements saying he simply didnt remember certain details. prosecutors had accused manafort of five specific lies. he pleaded guilty last year to financial crimes and had agreed to cooperate with the mueller investigation. the judge issued an order saying that manafort lied in three of those topics and that the lies were, quote, material to the investigation. two of those lies the judge said had to do with manaforts former bus...

Kilimnik. and this is what has so troubled i think the special counsel and the fbi throughout this entire investigation. >> so what does this do? weve been saying all along collusion is not a crime, its just a term, right? so what does this mean for the potential of that, michael? >> you know, we would talk about this, we dont have delusional, we do have conspiracy. if you think about a bicycle wheel and youve got the spokes of the wheel and theres something at the center and that appears to be ...

Mueller investigation has been about. this is the man that the special counsel and the defensive team has inadvertently leaked that paul manafort provided internal polling data for. this is man that manafort had a secret meeting with in new york where its believed he discussed, you know, ukrainian political issues there at this meeting in new york. this is man that the special counsel has been very interested in. very interested in the relationship between paul manafort and this russian operativ...

Again, manafort was the campaign chairman, right? and kilimnik is a russian associate who shared campaign polling data -- he shared polling data with. why lie about that? who is he protecting? >> hes tied to russian intelligence too. isnt kilimnik -- hes got ties to russian intel. hes got ties to oleg deripaska, who is an incredibly powerful oligarch. you know, people who have crossed russian intelligence, some of them have ended quite badly. >> right. >> you know, so in this case, were certainl...