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Until the election going through -- you said this. what about this? what about this? we can talk about important issues. i prefer to talk about important issues. the american people are speaking volumes saying theyre tired of this garbage. >> joining me now from the debate site in milwaukee, nbcs chris jansing and conducted that interview with ben carson over the weekend. you covered a lot of ground in that interview. give us for people that missed it the highlights of where you see ben carson a...