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Between europe and the united states to get what they really wanted out of these talks, which was relief from the economic sanctions. so thats one reason why it was never reasonable to expect that anything was going to come out of this. iran, on the one hand, the west on the other hand have completely different objectives, theyre 180 degrees apart. and negotiations arent going to bridge differences like that. martha: its interesting, you know, one sort of subtext here is that perhaps the iranian...