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people arent allowed to camp there without the permission of landowners. now on bbc news, political thinking with nick robinson. hello and welcome to a new series, conversation with rather than an interrogation of someone who shapes our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is the leader of britains second largest trade union, sharon graham who replaced the rather better—known len mccluskey. we are at a time with strikes on the health service, strikes on...

With a number of other people now who were doing different things in the trade union movement so it was a good initiative, definitely. the thin . initiative, definitely. the thing that _ initiative, definitely. the thing that brings - initiative, definitely. the thing that brings you - initiative, definitely. the thing that brings you to this job is not public profile, you are a lower trade union unionist than your predecessor led mccluskey. you call it strike plus, other people call it leverage...