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Church. it was a remarkable, memorable and almost normal in a sense and i hate to say that but we were speaking spanish, spanis is my first language and his native language, as well and it was a bit fun conversation that i would have with someone like my grandfather. he was laughing and joking, very memorable in so many ways. >> i understand you reached out to some priests for guidance on how to approach him. [ laughter ] >> i did. because i was a little frightened quite frankly. you know, i was...