they ve got some cabinet members and tory mp is saying this is a dangerous precedent, the result of this ruling will be that mobs will seek to tear down statues across the country. do you think we will see that happening? i country. do you think we will see that happening? country. do you think we will see that happening? i don t know whether we will see that that happening? i don t know whether we will see that happening that happening? i don t know whether we will see that happening because, l we will see that happening because, if you remember back to when this actually happened, there was this black lives matters groundswell, and it came together up and down the country, and this was one of the things that happened. and the conditions at that point, will those conditions at that point, will those conditions happen again? i think the most important thing here perhaps is what one of the human rights barristers said the jury can sometimes be a kind of societal pressure rele
can t go and say you just don t have the right at all, unless we, the government, give you the pearlation to have ital. well the aclu also filed one of these briefs and they said strict limits on securing weapons in public adopted to foster safety and, quote, the peace, conducive to a thriving public life are part of a long-standing public tradition. the second amendmentment has not prevented states from making this reasonable policy choice before and it should not now. new york s regulation should be upheld. how do you respond to the aclu s argument? i think the aclu has it backwards. this is a fundamental right, just like your first amendment right to assemble, petition your government, freedom of the press, speak your mind, the beating heart of the constitution, that pressure release valve we re very protective because that s a right we re born with and government coming in and trying to restrict that right is viewed with strict scrutiny. so are these second amendment rights, th
so he set that. and the other thing he basically said, we need to pass both of them. you know, so there you have it, wolf. all sides of this argument losing a little bit and winning a little bit. and the democrats believe that s put them in a position to get on a path to momentum. to get both bills passed. but wolf, as we ve said many times this week, they still have a lot of work to do. they certainly do, ryan. i want you to stand by. we ll get back to you in just a moment. to the other end of pennsylvania avenue. phil mattingly is at the white house. what is happening behind the scenes where you are at the white house tonight? the president returned from capitol hill and huddled with aides, talking about next steps. also, what transpired on capitol hill. and what we saw was a very clear effort to serve as a bit of a pressure release valve. obviously, white house officials and the president, very closely watching. at in points, participating in what has been a serious and feveri