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in or focused on what is going on. once you get more paid media focusing on his accomplishments and job creation but economic successes as president but what he will do in a second term you get the avengers out there on the campaign trail, the cabinet members, mayors, a strong bench of topnotch surrogates out there. once you see it heat up on the democrat side, there will be a lot of excitement and enthusiasm and it will reflect in similar polls like this. >> this is, i think, the first time matthew in my lifetime, that we are seeing a rematch of two former presidents. it has been a minute since we have seen that. how much of that is a factor? this is a match up that people were not excited about from the get go. irrespective of who the two men are and how different they are but the mere fact that it is a replay of two individuals and
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a lot of voters who are not tuned in to the election and who are not focused on what's going on. and i think once you get more paid media out from biden's campaign, focusing on his accomplishments. focusing on not only the job creation, but the successes as president that he has achieved so far. you'll get what i call the avengers out there on the campaign trail, the cabinet members, the governor. we have a strong bench of really topnotch surrogates out there. once you see the campaign heat up, i think it will be a lot of excitement and a lot of enthusiasm, and that will make a big difference and reflect in similar polls like this. >> this is the first time matthew, certainly in my lifetime that we're seeing a rematch of two former presidents. it's been a minute. it's safe to say we've seen this. how much of that is a factor that this is a matchup that people are not necessarily excited about from the get go? and in respective of who these two men and how different they are by the mere fact it's kind
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stop the election count. but you have, you know, the former attorney general and other close insiders, cabinet members, who describe donald trump in the worst, you know, terrible terms after january 6th. and now say yeah, i'll vote for him because he's a republican and he's better than joe biden. explain how you can be so disparaging of the morality, the character of a candidate, politician, of a man, then say, yeah, but i'll vote for him. >> well, i mean, i think it's hard for me to put myself in their views. i don't know that i necessarily feel the same way. i do think for the former vice president, there was less of a sense of that personality that perhaps some other cabinet members have expressed concerns. i think the former vice president came down to, i swore an oath to defend the constitution and that's where my allegiance lies.
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administration perhaps, or they knew they would have a good case against joe biden, so they went after one of the cabinet members. but i mean, it is almost forgotten, especially if you look at what else happened this week between the funding for ukraine and israel and taiwan and the donald trump trial. i think that they just let this one go by and paid it no heed. >> one ada, coming up in the show, i'm going to have stacey abrams concerns about voters ahead of this year's election. now this is as the new york times reports that the trump campaign and the republican party plan to dispatch over 100,000 election monitors, mostly in heavily democratic areas and battleground states. how worried are you about the threat of voter intimidation or other mischief from the gop? >> i am extremely worried.
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>> this impeachable was always doomed to fail if they want, they can always count on the senate democrats to do though do stuff they're going to later regret because dismissing this impeachment without having a trial, without looking at the evidence, unprecedented in the history of the senate someday in the future, they are going to regret this may not be in the next couple of years. i promise you just like they they have lived with it on judges someday in the future, they're going to regret setting a precedent of chucking an impeachment without looking at any of the evidence. >> but do you think that that warranted an impeachment? >> look, he impeachment of the cabinet member favors on what a century believe he lied to to congress about the border being secure. >> they believe he is refusing to enforce existing, you precedent. you can set a precedent in the sense that okay. now, when there's a certain party and the white house and there's a certain in party in the congress, there's just going to start impeaching cabinet members. how do you run a goal might just do that one of the political differences, one, is it a political difference to not enforce the
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