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Basement? of course, you would think i would want to go after goldman sachs as bush wanted to go after saddam. but i think i would be arrested if i produced false information. to say its a mistake, you know, if somebody ran over your 4-year-old, they get out and go, im sorry. misnations capittak mistake. >> i heard tony prescott was told the same thing. we are taking british troops to war. it was a false pretext. i heard him saying i changed my mind. it was a mistake. its a bit late, isnt it? >>...

Of mass destruction. that is why were taking british troops to war. it was a completely false pretext, and i heard him today saying, well, i changed my mind now. it was a mistakech we shouldnt have done it. its a bit late, isnt it? late in the day. tony blair is standing by what he did. george bush stands by what he did, but to say simply, well, we got it wrong. if you get a war wrong, what are the repercussions? >> unless there are repercussions, unless we do take blair and bush and cheney and ...

Weapons were used here. >> we have these dueling charges there. a lot of people wondering whether the regime is charging the rebels with using chemical weapons as a pretext so that they can then go use chemical weapons as a sort of response. right, ivan? that is one of the many conspiracy theories out there. we have to remember that just two days ago the syrian government carried out air strikes deep into neighboring lebanon to the west. it has ramped up consistently over the course of the las...

Syria is entering a critical stage. they are accusing each other of using chemical weapons. the syrian state news agency reports at least 25 people were killed yesterday. american officials said they are looking into allegations while white house press secretary issued a warning to the assad regime. >> we have no evidence to substantiate the charge that the opposition has used chemical weapons. warn the regime against making these kind of charges as any kind of pretext or cover for its use of ch...

Credibility and we would warn the regime against makes these kind of charges as any pretext or cover for its use of chemical weapons. >> jim clancy joining me in the studio. when we hear carney saying skeptical, just before we even get in to this, no one those whether chemical weapons were used. the u.s. knows the government has them. thats why president obama drew this red line. but we dont know for sure. >> no, we dont know for sure, but you can analyze it a little bit. you can look at the vid...

And of course there is that all important red line thats already been drawn. >> if this is the usage of chemical weapons, would we know for sure whether or not there would be u.s. boot on the ground in syria? >> the president has said that was a red line, he didnt say what it would mean if the red line got crossed. and they use the occasion again today and you heard carney talking about it where hes saying dont use this as a pretext, dont try to pump all of this up. the u.s. is backing the rebel...

In november, 2001. one of the talking points, how to start the war. >> youre right. >> what are we going to use as the pretext? >> michael, you guys are great. i could do this all night. michael, david, thank you. >> thank you, chris. >> i mean it. a big thank you for what youve written and done. by the way, as michael said, 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc were going to have a re-air of that terrific documentary "hubris" based on the book by these two great guys. michael isikoff and david ...

To discredit the legitimate opposition and distract from its own atrocities committed against the syrian people. >> we would warn the regime making these charges, any kind of pretext or cover. for its use of chemical weapons. >> that wasnt the first such warning from the white house. >> red line for us is we start seeing chemical weapons moved around or utilized. >> late today, carl levin, democrat of michigan and chairman of the senate armed services committee told foreignpolicy.com josh rogan ...

Israeli/palestinian conflict, there was yet another disturbing development today in syria when both the rebels and forces loyal to president assad accused each other of firing chemical weapons that syrian state tv has said killed at least 25 people in the north of the country. the white house sounded a skeptical note but warned against any further escalation of violence. >> on that specific allegation, we have no evidence to substantiate the charge that the opposition has used chemical weapons. ...

Talking to the commanders about putting together a war plan. >> by the end of 2001, i think the deal was on. >> look, yeah, one of the new documents we have in "hubris" in the documentary is the rumsfeld talking points for his meeting in november 2001. one of the talking points, how to start the war. >> youre right. >> what are we going to use as the pretext? >> already been done. michael, you guys are great. i could do this all night. michael, david, thank you. >> thank you, chris. >> i mean it...