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>> -- probably withstand appeal. >> talk about how unusual a case like this is, this contempt of congress case and the difficulty of trying a case like this. >> you know, is highly unusual, but its also extremely important because if you let individuals make their own decisions about whether they will or will not comply with lawfully issued subpoenas, whether they are congressional subpoenas, grand jury subpoenas, trial subpoenas, then the entire system just falls apart. congress c...

of the bravery of 25-year-old cassidy hutchinson, who spoke truth to power, who spoke the truth, who spoke, despite the fact that many much older, much more experienced men, were too weak and too shrivelled to be able to speak out about what happened behind closed doors in the trump white house leading up to -- >> did she say that? is willie here? >> let me tell you something -- >> willie -- i dont know that -- >> she mentioned theres more than one woman who spoke out and was able to d...

Up to the capitol, could i be charged with crimes, youre my lawyer or youre the white houses lawyer, i mean, that discussion about what a crime is, what a crime is not, what legal jeopardy he might face when hes seeking the advice of an attorney, a white house attorney, that would likely be privileged under any scenario, right? >> when you give legal advice and youre not trying to use it to commit a crime, its typically privileged. thats right. people get frustrated. i think youre right. they do...

Analyst. specifically for the questions and the tdocuments and records requested thus far, thats not a blanket response. at some point its possible that they could. >> of course, and thats the way privilege works. you know, it would never apply to a whole class of documents or every word that came out of someones mouth. what lawyers for the parties, you know, the former president and the current president would do is go through each document, all of the materials, and identify what would be subj...

And i think law school professors will teach entire semester news on the new made-up privileges that the trump administration as cited in this investigation. >> yes. and hong they actually last. >> thats right. >> how many hours that privilege works. congressman eric swalwell, please feel free to join us thursday night and let us know how it goes with steve bannon on thursday. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. coming up, robert mueller will hear everything that bannon will have to say that...

Immediately enforce an order for him to testify since theyre actually physically in court space, especially if its a grand jury. the congress would have to hold him in contempt and then try to go to court to enforce that. that would take quite a while. >> thats right. you have a judge likely upstairs who can rule swiftly. but i hope my republican colleagues are serious about doing all we can to compel the testimony and overcome these shenanigans. its not shenanigans. lets be real. this is an eff...