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Street. bureaucrats whoeets cannot make the distinction between somebody who needs a kick in the pants and somebodyeh who needs a pat on the back. we will put these kinds of humat needs back in the venue of human relationships where by you can apply the feedback loops of incentives and approbation and disdain and stigma and all the rest that can make these problems solvable. >> and this audience isems different from most in that thee understand that before the welfare state, there were these mut...

Now we have bureaucrats that cannot make the distinction between someone who needs a kick in the pants and someone who needs a pat on the back. we will put these in the back of human relationships, whereby you can apply this stigma come all the rest which can make the problems solvable. john: there were these mutual aid societies everywhere. >> it is not the business of the government.

Dont have now, now we have bureaucrats who cant make a distinction between who needs a kick in the pants. well put them back in the venue of human relationships whereby you can apply the feedback loops of incentives and app row bags and disdain and stigma and all the rest which can make these problems solvable. >> and this audience is different from most in that they understand that before the welfare state, there were mutual aid societies everywhere which helped people. larry, tell us about tha...