that would be the intelligence community would not necessarily like. oh, it wouldn t like it at all. it would be a terrible thing. i have the good fortune of not being a lawyer but i am an intelligence officer. and if there are indications of associations of foreign intelligence services, then you have to investigate them. this is classic standard counter intelligence work. it s not spying. calling that spying is stupid talk. also dangerous because it interferes with the procedure functions of the county intelligence and law enforcement authorities and intelligence authorities. of the united states. it would be a terrible thing for future operations and the security of the country were the trump representatives to succeed in breaking down yet another barrier in procedure functioning of national security organizations. traditional separations. i want to move on to a new york times story that you re very aware of here, benjamin.