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Trump to win michigan and wisconsin thereafter. but if the democrats win pennsylvania, i dont know where trump goes to win. >> where would he go? >> i dont know. i think this notion that you can win new mexico or colorado, i dont see that. and i think that for joe biden right now, sort of going after those working class voters that trump stole from clinton, because clinton i think thought she was going to win those voters, is what this election comes down to. >> how do you think the impeachment ...

The moderate republicans even now are still holding back on saying that this is bad and that they believe that this is something that is impeachable. so to the congressmans point and to your point, chuck, its going to be really important how it is laid out. and that is why the democrats are doing this different than they did the mueller debacle, which is to have these closed-door hearings to gather all of the evidence because they are constitutionally charged with bringing the charges forward. a...

That trump basically was demanding that zelensky do a public press conference calling for an investigation into joe biden and that the understanding is that trump was going to withhold the aid if zelensky didnt do that. that is shocking and i think most americans are going to conclude that. whats interesting is no republican is defending the president on the merits. they just are making process arguments. >> there were some contradictions between what the opening statement revealed from bill tay...

Stories. do the democrats know they have a public hearing issue before them? because soon theyre going to have to put this in bite size, understandable narrative fashion. >> i think that they do understand that. what youve seen from speakers pelosi is a message for her caucus to focus on what happened here, what was the smhake down, what was he doing in ukraine, and using all these statements to build out that narrative. to not take the bait into the process arguments, which is really where they...

Joining me from capitol hill, nbc news correspondent geoff bennett. also with me "washington post" senior political reporter aaron blake. former assistant secretary of state and former spokesman for hillary clinton philippe reinus. and from the center for american progress kelly magzaman. she served on the nsc for the bush and obama administrations and worked with ambassador bill taylor. everybody, thank you. geoff bennett. steve scalise ordered pizza for the press. i was just speaking with a de...

A public hearing issue before them? because soon theyre going to have to put this in bite size, understandable narrative fashion. >> i think that they do understand that. what youve seen from speaker pelosi is a message for her caucus to focus on what happened here, what was the shakedown, what was he doing in ukraine, and using all these statements to build out that narrative. to not take the bait into the process arguments, which is really where they got bogged down during the mueller investig...

Looking at abuse of power in ukraine and then something separate on obstruction in ukraine and maybe something from the mueller report. >> mieke, with your experience working in the house and the democratic staff side, how does that sound to you? and do you think that the house general -- democrats in the house would agree to that approach? >> look, i think its always a challenge to manage a caucus as diverse as one thats in the majority. you have people with competing political interests here a...

Master politician and her ability to understand exactly where the caucus is and what they can support and what the political implications are is unmatched and shes going to be able to marry that with whats the legal case for impeachment of this president? i think her instinct, make it as simple as possible to understand with this umbrella of abuse of power is really helpful. all too often democrats can get bogged down in process arguments and making it a very simple, clear, this is about how tru...

Nixon or watergate, they had separate bodies that did this behind closed doors and presented it. they dont in this case. but republicans are able to make the process arguments and it is not in front of the public. at some point arent democrats going to have to bring this in front of the public? >> think so. and i think they will and i think the circumstances are pretty important. one, they are hearing from career foreign service officers who are not accused of wrongdoing for the most part and sh...

Im not concerned about anything. you know, they cant -- they cant -- they have no substance. they cant defend the president so theyre going to process. were not going there. >> house speaker nancy pelosi said today that she doesnt need to call republicans bluff. the gop has been making process arguments, calling the impeachment process a sham or illegitimate. and that probably sounds great to trump fans on state tv, but if thats all theyve got for the rest of us, theyre already losing. "the wash...