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To people that could jump off the train. the question is does it get to 15, 16, 17 and do you lose people who are maybe less vulnerab vulnerable electorally. >> thank you so much. well be reading the new piece "the new york times" magazine. kimberly atkins, before gro, wht are you reporting on today? >> we are looking closely at the testimony that continues to come in on capitol hill and the lead-up to the vote that will be taken on thursday when it is expected that the house will formalize the ...

Behind closed doors and well see that play out in the public. >> and to your point, the polling on whether he should impeach settling around 50% around his approval rating but when you ask is it appropriate or a president to ask this kind of help from a foreign government and to leverage and 0e6r 60% consistently say it is wrong. so if the debate moves to the substance rather than that is not good terrain for the president or for the republicans because a clear and consistent majority of america...

That the president was trying to trade access to the white house and american security aid for election interference. and so i think this is a critical moment as the facts are becoming pretty impossible for republicans to refute. for speaker pelosi to take these process arguments off the table, which she will do with this vote on thursday. and then republicans will be left to decide whether they actually want to continue to defend this presidents actions. >> let me ask you about the mcconnell/gr...

Which is what is happening now, are absolutely routine in congressional investigations. i have played a role in them myself. so this is normal. it helps congress put together a factual record with the cameras out of the room before the politics take over. and thats what they are trying to do here. i think republicans do have some legitimate process arguments. i think the speaker should have put a resolution on the floor to begin this process. she didnt need to lawfully, and its a question of pol...

Redacted information, and what do you think youll see as a result? >> well, a couple things. i think, as you know, the argument was that ultimately, the house was fully engaged and is engaged in an impeachment inquiry, and therefore, under rule 6e, had every right to access these important materials as the committee and the committees, rather, now, make a decision as to how to proceed. i would just say, i think you got the historical context right at the beginning of the program, but its importa...

Very, very strong statement to be seen from a federal court tonight. >> this is on page 49, max. you know, it basically says the decision totally validates the impeachment process. no house impeachment inquiry resolution is required. so there you go. theyre saying, oh, you need a resolution. undercuts the house republicans argument and just basically republicans argument, and i guess what do you call them? trump apologists that there needs to be some sort of vote. >> right. i mean its a small vi...

Already 46 republicans hearing the charges. this is be being done in secret and those process arguments have a very short shelf life because house democrats have made cheer, that once this phase of the closed door depositions is finished, theyre going to hold that you can hearings and have a vote on impeachment. so republican theres get everything they want. it will be out in public, people voting on it. will it make them happy? of course not. this is not about procedure and not about the facts....

Argument and just basically republicans argument, and i guess what do you call them? trump apologists that there needs to be some sort of vote. >> right. i mean its a small victory for the anti-trump side. its not a huge deal one way or the other, i would say, because, you know, all these process arguments that the republicans are making have a short shelf life anyway, right? because theyre saying this is all behind closed doors. you need a vote. well, guess what? in a few weeks time youre going...

Due process and transparency of law. is there any validity to that assessment. >> no, and theres not. and one need look no further than the ruling that you mentioned that came out just yesterday. a judge howells blistering decision that rejected some of the process arguments that republicans have been making with respect to this notion that the full house had to vote for example to begin an impeachment inquiry. the judges decision rejecting these arguments as frivolous by the department of justi...

Do you think youll see as result? >> well, a couple of things as you know the i think ultimately the house was engaged and is engaged in an inquiry. and therefore under rule 6e had the right to these as the committee did proceed. i think you got the context right at the beginning of the program but its important for this victory not to be seen through a partisan lens. its ultimatehy a win for the american people. it was a major victory for the constitution and fundamental rule of law in our coun...