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Reason of the main process here, chris, they will not take the time to get any first-hand witnesses that have direct knowledge of this matter and the presidents statements and state of mind. mick mulvaney, acting chief of staff, rudy giuliani, any of these people because it might take another two months or so. and i think a lot of the process arguments at the moment will be forgotten in the fullness of time but the fact theyre sending a flagrantly incomplete fact all record to the senate on this...

One because if they had one they would be banging down the doors of the hearing room saying we want to testify. mick mulvaney telling what happened. you dont have them doing that. theyre not mounting that defense. the question is, why not? it doesnt really exist. theyre sort of forced to fall back on these process arguments that really misunderstand the nature of the presidency. because if you read pat cipillones letter, theyre treating the presidency as its a personal right of donald trump, as ...

They didnt do it for some reason of the main process here, chris, they will not take the time to get any first-hand witnesses that have direct knowledge of this matter and the presidents statements and state of mind. mick mulvaney, acting chief of staff, rudy giuliani, any of these people because it might take another two months or so. and i think a lot of the process arguments at the moment will be forgotten in the fullness of time but the fact theyre sending a flagrantly incomplete fact all re...

This dont you know? >> process arguments dont work. >> but they work with the base and the republican party. >> they motivate our voters. >> why? >> people who are particularly interested in one, fairness, two, particular issue, like protecting the right to an unborn life, protecting the second amendment, the process matters in those things in a way that it doesnt in a giant legislative goal like medicare for all. >> foes for those voters in the middle, for those voters in the middle, process ar...

>> process arguments dont work. >> except they work with the base in the republican party. >> they motivate our voters. people who are particularly interested in one fairness, two particular issues. like, protecting unborn life. protecting the second amendment. the process matters in those things in a way that it doesnt in a giant legislative goal like medicare for all. >> but for those voters in the middle, the process arguments confuse them. and that is a republican tactic and strategy that th...

Say this is getting weird r aer the day. >> republicans continue to say what new evidence, ali? representative mark meadows, one of the presidents biggest supporter was on fox news saying exactly that that there was no new evidence and any new evidence he says shows the president made the right decision in withholding this aid to ukraine. and so, we cant move forward. we can expect republicans continue to defend this president strongly and also continues to make these process arguments talking a...

Process arguments to stop this than they do evidentiary arguments. and i think they kind of know this. >> well, for me, look, im a political hack. i do campaigns. and where i think, for me, being completely political in campaign is look at where the polling is going on this. look at -- chuck -- chuck -- but, chuck, check this out. in georgia right now, majority of college voters in georgia right now are for impeachment. georgia is supposedly a red state. so when you talk about the slide that rep...

Being the one that attacked our election, that donald trump was trying to get ukraine to make seem real with an investigation. >> i thought their tactics were shameful, and it was, of course, disappointed that they would choose to again engage in some of these frivolous process arguments. but of course, they know all too well that they cant defend the substance, that ultimately, the facts are uncontested and that they cannot defend the egregiousness of this presidents conduct, and so they chose ...

Republicans. they werent allowed to ask questions. its a very sad thing. >> i -- that even somehow comes across more tone deaf after what he did today and after all the praise the republicans lavished on her. >> right. they had a clear game plan going into this. stick with their process arguments. keep praise of the ambassador. make it clear she wasnt there. this was a hearsay witness and thats it. he just keeps stepping on rakes out there. >> the thing about it is, is that, you know, there are ...

Terrible fact pattern for him and you could tell it was a terrible fact pattern by watching the arguments that the republicans were putting out that were not going to the main point which was that the president had this call, that the aid was held up and there was a lot of conversation that suggested why it was being held up, you know, there were process arguments being made and there were arguments about president obama and there were arguments about hunter biden, but you know, they dont really...