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Theyve got military backgrounds or prior convictions its all part of a nine-page document thats being sent through on the hope office that we are required to ask these people were asking them for mortgage statements, property deeds, all for proof of, you know, address and residency in the ukraine theyre standing there with nothing but a teddy bear and their life possessions at no point did they think, what i really need to pack is my mortgage deeds or applications to support the visa application...

Guys at a place near przemysl, which is a place where people are walking across medyka, i went there basically by myself ended up meeting some guys in a car park went up to the british desk as it were to see if they needed a hand i essentially ended up stumbling across these volunteers who are single-handedly, i might say, providing these applications in przemysl for refugees to head back home in the u.s just basically helping them out. >> sorry to interrupt here, were pinched for time you have ...