So. [speaker not understood]. Hold on a second. Let me come over here so you can restate the first part of your question again if i could get you to stand up and well talk to the San Francisco Police Department here. First part of my question was perhaps more urgent. We represent this table, and over here oakland california. And youre aware of the violent nature in that city. Of course, yeah. What im concerned with is you have do gooders and theyre painting out something that the nortenas have painted and want to stay up there and they dont really observe nighttime hours versus daytime hours. So, how do we protect the possibility of some violence being put upon these people that are doing the good work . So, youre thinking more like the retaliation from taggers of the people that are abating the tagging. You just have to educate them. Try to make them aware of whats gang graffiti and whats tagger graffiti. Either way its going to be dangerous. There is a lot of violence in the taggers.
That even if you give an artist permission to put up graffiti on your wall, it has to go. They dont permit graffiti on your walls. Whether thats in a mural or whether thats just a tag on your wall. So, even if it is done with permission, with consent, if somebody complains or if one of our by law officers come by, it has to go. And its one of those very clear definitions of graffiti versus art and thats how vancouver has been doing it. I hope that helps a little bit. Thank you. Yeah, i think here in San Francisco the difference between graffiti and art is the permission. I hope i appreciate our anonymously written questions. [laughter] all right. Anybody else have an answer to that one . So, well move on to the next one. Ill take somebody from the audience and come back here. Good, im seeing some hands go up. Well go with you, if you want to stand up. My question is about liabilities. If youre doing something that the original tagger, the vandal, lets say, did, and now youre using volu
Its city property. And as far as the type of paint we use, we dont use aerosol paint. We dont use solvents or thinners or anything like that. So, im not exposing the kids in my program to any dangerous chemicals or anything like that. But [speaker not understood]. But i am present and that is a big concern. And you have every right to be concerned about that, because you could cause a violent reaction. From the wrong person. Im not saying that every person who is involved in graffiti vandalism is violent or is going to take disrespect to it. They know its part of the game for the most part. But you could have a bad incident by painting over someones graffiti. Were going to continue going back and forth. One other point. Just two quick points with our program. You know, when we have a mural going up in a Certain Police district, we inform that Police District that its happening. Sometimes an artist can be painting a mural and they can site them for vandalizing. We want them to know its
Cancer or whatever it might be. Great question. And we look like we have a couple of people that would like to take an answer on that one. When we do our graffiti wipe outs, we have it arranged so its the Nonprofit Organization that is applying to us for permission to do it. Theyre responsible for getting volunteer waivers from all of the participants. Our funding to provide them with the supplies and the support to do the wipe out is based on them following our guidelines which are all safety rules provided we dont allow them to use any chemical materials. Theyre only allowed to use paint. The volunteers must be 15 years of age. So, if they violate any of those criteria, then its the volunteer organization thats basically not complied with our requirements. So, they have no issue basically with us. In terms of liability just to ensure that we dont have any problems with Property Owners in terms of painting, we ensure that we get 2 million of liability insurance. That blanketly coffers
If youre doing something that the original tagger, the vandal, lets say, did, and now youre using volunteers to paint it out, what has anybody considered the possibility if you dont have police accompaniment to the rehabilitation of that wall, that its very possible that the person that tagged it is not going to want to see it painted out and might behave in an adversarial situation, perhaps danger . Inclusive of the fact that on the other side of the coin is lets say youve got volunteers, youve got kids that work in on the wall. And a possibility of this Hazardous Material affecting them in some negative way so that later on down the road, those people who were doing a volunteer wonderful job are now going to be bringing you into court and saying, you organized this thing and you caused this cancer or whatever it might be. Great question. And we look like we have a couple of people that would like to take an answer on that one. When we do our graffiti wipe outs, we have it arranged so