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Months to come. >> can you win december 15th when ryan and patty murray get together and do this deal? is this like a step on the ladder? >> well, i would hope so. but well see. you know, every time ive gotten into a discussion with the president, vice president, the democrats here in washington, and talking about entitlement changes, trying to make these programs sustainable, all they want to do is raise taxes. we cant do that unless youre willing to raise taxes. and so if theyre going to hold ...

When ryan and patty murray get together and do this deal? is this like a step on the ladder? >> well, i would hope so, but well see. you know, every time ive gotten into a discussion with the president, vice president, the democrats here in washington, and talking about entitlement changes, trying to make the programs sustainable, all they want to do is raise taxes. well, we cant do that unless youre willing to raise taxes. if theyre going to hold on to their position that were always going to r...