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Mapd that his statements were inappropriate, that the request to investigate biden and his son had nothing to do with the national security and his statements were inappropriate. >> he heard ambassador sondland tell the ukrainians that to get a white house meeting that they needed to deliver on investigations into vice president biden. that, anderson, is a this for that, in other words, a quid pro quo. >> but sondland offered investigators a different version of events. testifying, if ambassador...

So i think thats an indication that might be it. >> would you like to borrow our nsa? >> the other story here is the death of shame in western culture. freedom without rules is anarchy. theres a reason that we used to be embarrassed about these things. it kind of kept us from driving our lives into the ditch. >> im embarrassed about it. >> but in politics, that doesnt exist anymore. if its not illegal its okay. >> but alex, in the past -- lets be honest. politicians werent squeaky clean forever....

And bringing the kids through. >> the thing was expose the honorable thing to do was to resign. not to drag your family, your constituents. >> yes. a bad example. >> never to report on this stuff. these people got away with it and you had the illusion of prop righty. >> having a couple of drinks of brandy is not crack smoking. >> he cant a bottle of whiskey a day. >> whatever. he won a war. >> theres this arrogance that your so important that only you in office can do this even if you have repea...