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Now, ed, is tell the governor calm down. you want to send out your fund-raising letters so you can raise money? we know a lot of this is about youre at 70% in the polls and you want to continue to raise money. look, responsible people like us on talking about in this evening, we should say lets bring about comprehensive immigration reform. what we should do is have one policy. >> do you think shes doing this to raise her position in the polls, that this is all about an election? >> you know, unf...

The beginning, and she actually was also opposed to proposition 187 which has opened -- opened up a lot of doors for her in terms of the california hispanic community right now. >> so shes smart to get to the middle on this. not to go right. >> hold it. weve got to go. karen, weve got to go. karen finney, i know where you stand on id cards and todd, you too. youre both wimps. jerry brown will be our guest on "hardball" on friday. is president obama acting like a little bit of a one-term presid...

That race? whats jerry brown have to do? >> you know, jerry brown actually was a very popular governor. i lived in california when he was governor, and so hes actually got, you know -- shes got a lot more money than him and only been able to pull even, so i think that suggests for jerry brown, a, i would use that issue to raise money, the fact that shes got so much more money than him. use that to your advantage to actually raise money and frankly he has to get out there and pick up a strong bit...

>> shes been against it from the beginning, and she actually was also opposed to proposition 187 which has opened -- opened up a lot of doors for her in terms of the california hispanic community right now. >> so shes smart to get to the middle on this. not to go right. >> shes right in the middle. >> hold it. weve got to go. karen, weve got to go. karen finney, i know where you stand on id cards and todd, you too. youre both wimps. jerry brown will be our guest on "hardball" this friday. up nex...

Gains that will have a residual effect and then it is in the hands of the g.o.p., and my advice to them is, on the state and federal level, do this incrementally. work with border security, work with employers, targeting the employers or hiring illegals, and then work on the issues of getting rid of the felons, by deportation or incarceration. that is where the g.o.p. continues to win on the issue. bill: you think they chip away at it slowly and maybe arizona is this first chip on the block, do ...

Interesting thing is this will hurt arizona. it will not help arizona. the -- all the economic studies that have been done, including the university of arizona report were doing a similar report here, would show that if you even reduced this immigration by 15% in the state of arizona, this would have a devastating effect of over $15 billion. on the states economy. if they actually implement the bill. the other thing is. >> juan: thats a secondary impact. i was asking you how the courts are likel...

Hurt arizona. it will not help arizona. the -- all the economic studies that have been done, including the university of arizona report were doing a similar report here, would show that if you even reduced this immigration by 15% in the state of arizona, this would have a devastating effect of over $15 billion. on the states economy. if they actually implement the bill. the other thing is. >> juan: thats a secondary impact. i was asking you how the courts are likely to rule. you are saying, yes,...

Hurt arizona. it will not help arizona. the -- all the economic studies that have been done, including the university of arizona report were doing a similar report here, would show that if you even reduced this immigration by 15% in the state of arizona, this would have a devastating effect of over $15 billion. on the states economy. if they actually implement the bill. the other thing is. >> juan: thats a secondary impact. i was asking you how the courts are likely to rule. you are saying, yes,...

When pete wilson wanted more of a national platform. what happened with proposition 187 is not only did it ruin his political career but it politicized the latino community. i think a lot of times right now, the republicans are saying what theyre fearing more and more, the tea party and thats 18% of the republican party. we already know how theyre going to vote. the latino vote is very much a swing vote, alex, and were talking about 18% of a population that is not either republican or democrat. ...

And, instead, what the obama administration now has to look at, we need comprehensive reform because its a slippery slope and not only will happen in arizona. other folks are taking notes saying this is a good idea. i think its a bad idea. >> here is what pat buchanan said with me about the racial profiling, you made this point that police make determinations about people, maria, all the time, sizing them up, evaluate situations, not necessarily using race. it is what they are trained to do. isn...